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Default mmats 1600.1 vs brz 1700.1...


one of these again...lol...

i know what the 1700.1 can do but what about the 1600.1...my boy has the 1600.1 on 4 sa8s and its not cutting it...would the 1700.1 be a better amp then the 1600.1...i dont really know much about mmats...
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i would choose mmats over hifonics.
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probably not, mmats amps are pretty damn solid!
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Default Re: mmats 1600.1 vs brz 1700.1...

really...didnt think that...it dosent even have much to control or change anything...says it puts out 1150 @ 1ohm...and he got it in 06 so its kind of old...


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they've been good for a while, the amp will do closer to 1600
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if he wants an upgrade, step up to a 2400
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then i dont know why these 8s arent hitting like they should...
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i would choose the matts i heard they putt out big numbers!!!
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then i dont know why these 8s arent hitting like they should...

more power then, check how they're wired up
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they are at 1ohm...i might just get him to let me run a wire from mine and see what they do...
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they are at 1ohm...i might just get him to let me run a wire from mine and see what they do...

4 sa8 should get down on that mmats
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yes they should...thats why i dont know whats up...he got one of those bass knob rca wire things too...

his 2 12 mmats in a sealed box hit harder then the 8s...
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yes they should...thats why i dont know whats up...he got one of those bass knob rca wire things too...

his 2 12 mmats in a sealed box hit harder then the 8s...

something must be off with the install imo
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dont see where i did something wrong on it...
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dont see where i did something wrong on it...

recheck all gains, filters, final loads, check HU, grounds ect, if they're new, they might need break in
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No, i do think the brz2100 or brz2400 will make those 8s wang
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did all that...everything was good...they are new but still...
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more power and break in
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clamp the amp and see what your box rise is
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MMATS was the first company to do 1000 rms in less than 12" of sink. Or 1200, something like that. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think they spear-headed Class-D technology also. Handmade in Florida.

I know the older ones from the 90's did the do, but I don't have a clue about the newer line-up.

This is when amps like theirs were somewhat shunned because they were so dang small compared to the comp. like Orion, Soundstream, PPI, Hifonics. So alot of folks were leery about an amp that claimed 1000 rms but wasn't 3 feet long.

But for awhile they were doing some serious damage to the established sect's reputations. They were winning comps everywhere and guys were like, "where in the heck did these guys come from".

The older ones didn't have a subsonic filter, but could be modded at your own risk to put out even more power.

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Something's off, possibly with the enclosure or something out of phase. I have once in my life seen a sub that was labeled backwards (actually the red paint dot was on the wrong side so it was probably a human error at the factory). If you for sure checked everything and it still doesn't sound right it's probably his enclosure.
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damn im hoping its not the box cause i build it...the speakers are all moving the same...


this is the box...i have a thread on it and only 1 person said its good...lol...

51ins wide
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that gives me 3 cubes...i took away the 0.10 for each sub...i get 2.6cubes after that...im doing a 4in aero port at 8 1/2 ins long for 34hz...
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How are the subs aiming and where is the port firing? Also you can't really just play subs and tell if one is out of phase, touching a 9 volt battery to the terminal is a good way to do a quick check polarity. It's DC so the sub will move in, or out depending on which way you hook it up.
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i hit it with a battery right after i put the subs in the box...here is a picture of the box...

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really...didnt think that...it dosent even have much to control or change anything...says it puts out 1150 @ 1ohm...and he got it in 06 so its kind of old...


D1600.1/D1600.2
this seems quite obvious to me ... if you are gainset to 1150 then after rise you are probably right around 600 for 4 subs. thats 150 per sub and thats nothing for sa's... They need a bit more power than that to get going. So yes a brz1700 would be a big difference but a 2400 would be a very large difference. Correct me if I am wrong... Also what are you gainset to? What db tone did you use?
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