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my amp (hifonics brutus 1100) uses input sensitivity instead of gain. It ranges from 9v to 0.2v. Now looking at it I though that 9v would be higher and 0.2v would be lower but it's the opposite. The more I go to 0.2v the louder my subs get. I looked up what input sensitivity actually meant and it said I was supposed to match the voltage of my HU. I do that and it clips when I put the bass remote on max, so I turned it to 9v and yeah it's a little quieter but not clipping or smelling.

I'd just like a good explanation of what it is from somebody on this forum since you guys know so much. Thanks.
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it is exactly the same as gain, in application.

it is to match your preout voltage to amp output.

if you turn your bass knob all the way up, is it the same loudness with the bass knob unplugged from the amp?
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I can't tell you that right now because of this terminal issue I'm having, but I'm guessing it should match?
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A few people have had issues with remote control knobs causing the amp to clip when set on max.

Which as far as I know shouldn't happen because it has nothing to do with the physical gain (were your actually changing the Gain Knob).

Max (100%) on control knob should be Max set point on gain. It augments the gain that's set

NOW I'm not sure if it matters??? but when you set your gain you should have the remote control knob (hooked up) set to max while setting the gain. At least that's what I've done, when I was using the remote. The MS-8 does all that so I had no need to use the remote.

I could be completely wrong but that's what makes the most sense to me as to the remotes function.
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A few people have had issues with remote control knobs causing the amp to clip when set on max.

Which as far as I know shouldn't happen because it has nothing to do with the physical gain (were your actually changing the Gain Knob).

Max (100%) on control knob should be Max set point on gain.

NOW I'm not sure if it matters??? but when you set your gain you should have the remote control knob (hooked up) set to max while setting the gain. At least that's what I've done, when I was using the remote. The MS-8 does all that so I had no need to use the remote.

I could be completely wrong but that's what makes the most sense to me as to the remotes function.
Some remote knobs are a gain and some are a remote bass eq. Either one needs to be taken into consideration when setting the gain on the amp. A lot of people use them the wrong way and cause a lot of self inflicted grief and expense.
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Some remote knobs are a gain and some are a remote bass eq. Either one needs to be taken into consideration when setting the gain on the amp. A lot of people use them the wrong way and cause a lot of self inflicted grief and expense.
I remember seeing something about there being two kinds.

But fully agree

When I used the remote I actually set for full output to be max (700WRMS in my case). Gain set via DMM including remote. Then used the remote and turned it down till I found (400WRMS +/-50Wrms in my case) for daily and marked it... Really wasn't any difference between the two but gave me a safe zone per say
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The gain on your amp is a Power knob. The more you turn it up means your amp puts out more powah! So if you have two Sony subs that put out 1000 watts you crank it up. If you have two rockford 500 watt output subs, then you turn it down. My amp puts out 500 watts turned all the way down but if I want major bass, I can put out like 5000 watts by just cranking the screw. Steve Meade does it the same way. In his console he has a power screw that is connected to his amps. I can do the same thing. So basically turn all the knobs to the right and you will be the loudest in your town. A very wise man told me this like 30 mins ago
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The gain on your amp is a Power knob. The more you turn it up means your amp puts out more powah! So if you have two Sony subs that put out 1000 watts you crank it up. If you have two rockford 500 watt output subs, then you turn it down. My amp puts out 500 watts turned all the way down but if I want major bass, I can put out like 5000 watts by just cranking the screw. Steve Meade does it the same way. In his console he has a power screw that is connected to his amps. I can do the same thing. So basically turn all the knobs to the right and you will be the loudest in your town. A very wise man told me this like 30 mins ago
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The gain on your amp is a Power knob. The more you turn it up means your amp puts out more powah! So if you have two Sony subs that put out 1000 watts you crank it up. If you have two rockford 500 watt output subs, then you turn it down. My amp puts out 500 watts turned all the way down but if I want major bass, I can put out like 5000 watts by just cranking the screw. Steve Meade does it the same way. In his console he has a power screw that is connected to his amps. I can do the same thing. So basically turn all the knobs to the right and you will be the loudest in your town. A very wise man told me this like 30 mins ago
I have no idea if you are being serious or not, but this is very wrong. Very, very wrong.
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the gain on your amp is a power knob. The more you turn it up means your amp puts out more powah! So if you have two sony subs that put out 1000 watts you crank it up. If you have two rockford 500 watt output subs, then you turn it down. My amp puts out 500 watts turned all the way down but if i want major bass, i can put out like 5000 watts by just cranking the screw. Steve meade does it the same way. In his console he has a power screw that is connected to his amps. I can do the same thing. So basically turn all the knobs to the right and you will be the loudest in your town. A very wise man told me this like 30 mins ago
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The gain on your amp is a power knob. The more you turn it up means your amp puts out more powah! So if you have two Sony subs that put out 1000 watts you crank it up. If you have two rockford 500 watt output subs, then you turn it down. My amp puts out 500 watts turned all the way down but if I want major bass, I can put out like 5000 watts by just cranking the screw. Steve Meade does it the same way. In his console he has a power screw that is connected to his amps. I can do the same thing. So basically turn all the knobs to the right and you will be the loudest in your town. A very wise man told me this like 30 mins ago
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The gain on your amp is a power knob. The more you turn it up means your amp puts out more powah! So if you have two Sony subs that put out 1000 watts you crank it up. If you have two rockford 500 watt output subs, then you turn it down. My amp puts out 500 watts turned all the way down but if I want major bass, I can put out like 5000 watts by just cranking the screw. Steve Meade does it the same way. In his console he has a power screw that is connected to his amps. I can do the same thing. So basically turn all the knobs to the right and you will be the loudest in your town. A very wise man told me this like 30 mins ago
You actually gave me a pretty good laugh. I realized you were joking half way through though. This is part of why I keep coming back.
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You actually gave me a pretty good laugh. I realized you were joking half way through though. This is part of why I keep coming back.
Thank you. I know this is a serious tread am surprised mods didn't kill it but thought it was funny at the time. But really this how I tune all my systems YO to get hella loud. Jk. The companies should relabel the amps to say " POWAH" instead of "gain" or "volts"
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