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If anyone has a old cap sitting around they should video a before and after. My neighbor has a 1 farad Memphis capacitor and he says that it helps. He is in the process of upgrading his system so I may be able to do a few tests with his cap.
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that good idea before and after
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I dunno guys, I'm not expert by any means but they sure seemed to help me. It's been a long time since I've had a system but when I did, I had a problem with lights dimming and blown alternators. After I added a couple caps, I didn't have either of those problems anymore. They might not be the best option for serious systems but it did seem to help my meager system back then. *shrugs*
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Cap will help you reduce lights dimming but will not make audio system loud. I had upgrade my electrical wire, and battery so far with no light dimming and much louder booming system with increase DB.
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good thread. i learnd somethin. took a few mins to read but i got it. big systems are better off with electrical system upgrades, not caps.
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why you don't need a cap.....
reason one: requires you to make indirect connections to your amplifier reason two: doesn't "boost" your system reason three: if you discharge one accidentally, it HURTS and you will then smell like crispy bacon.
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lol, very nice!
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I've seen a cap get shorted and blow up in a guy's face, it was pretty damn funny after we figured out he was ok.
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i enjoy watching the local car audio noobs install caps, it makes for a good time
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.Around here (Central Michigan) you have 2 types of people: The ones who buy at Wal-Mart and the ones who spend $2,000+ at the local shop for a p.o.s. system that won't even do 140db! |
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I think caps help headlight dimming, but they are not the solution that 99% of the people out there think they are using them for. I would guess a lot of it depends on the amp's power supply design. Why do they bother to put caps in an amp's power supply?
I have 9 group 31 yellow tops, a 250+ amp alt, and a lot of 1/0. My sub amps (4 IA 40.1's) do not dim my lights, but my 2000 watts of mids/highs amps will. . . .I added a 3 farad cap near those amps, and the headlight dimming is gone. . .
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I agree they can work for some applications, such as headlights, but when it comes to power amps, they don't stand a chance.
We were doing an exercise in class, for a proper decoupling capacitor at 20Hz and 4000Wrms, you would need a 36 Farad cap IIRC. Thats huge.
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its the same out here. i laugh at the fools!
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So which type of person are you? lol |
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It could be possiblity that they don't know what DB are, right?
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going to have to agree with capn ... the walmart near me does sell prefabs also, not saying you are wrong tho! All walmarts tend to carry differnt products, they dont all have the same thing. so chances are the one near you doesnt carry them
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ya they even have the build your own box kits I think they tape those boxes together tho
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they have like 35 of those on stock at the walmart by me. i knew a kid once who bought 1 iirc it was hdf board and like 1ft^3 lol.
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Isnt this wrong?
In electronics, we measure power in watts. Wattage tells us how much work a device can do. But a wattage rating does not tell us anything about how long we can sustain that work. By def: Watt=joules/time... you cant have wattage without a time value. plz correct me if im wrong.
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and according to ohms law volts x amps=wattage as well. so your misaplying your logic.
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is it safe to draw 900-1000w of the stock alt. what should i do becouse i am definetly not using the cap after reading this thread. it is not installed yet but will be soon as i get the box built.
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f**k caps igot one it did'nt help for s**t $180 wasted
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I've run over 6000 watts off a stock alternator before with no problems. You just need a small reserve source for 900-1000, like a Kinetik 600 or batcap 800 or similar.
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