Originally Posted by Solid_State13

also, audioque hdc3's would take that power, and those woofers arent all that expensive for how much power some people are running to them. But if you are able to get a really good deal on some DC stuff, go for that. A lot of people lately have been going for the Lvl4 XL's

Originally Posted by dustin420

havoc is a great sub people compare it to a fi q with better power handling or a bl with better sq. soundstream is a good brand but all i ever hear about is the xxx so not sure on the lower models. DC is great lv4, lv4 xl, lv5 would probally all meet your needs but not to sure on price? anyway ive never heard any of these subs just what i read online so ya.

Originally Posted by 97maxima

ive heard nothing but good things about dc, people swear by them. no on soundstream and db i cant comment on. you could go lv4s with lv5 coils or some lv4xls. if it was me id go with the dcs. if i wasnt about to build a sub id go dc

Originally Posted by crownvic02

well i'm not a brand junkie, so any brand, i just want some solid 12s that can handle 1200-1400 daily with no problems thats all, and that i can tune low, but brands i have looked at were american bass xfl, dc audio lv 4s, db drive plw, & soundstream t4s, so opinions on those subs or other suggestion of subs to use would be appreciated

Originally Posted by blackout

his thread, his choice

Originally Posted by 97maxima

start a thread for that, not tryin to be a dick but unless its based around the xfl-12 theres no need to post here.

Originally Posted by crownvic02

bump for suggestions of any other subs

Originally Posted by SlamminTriple6

After reading all that bull sh1t i know you haven't heard an XFL.They just came out this year .Oh and don't try to tell me no they had them back when your friend was in high school because my friend has been a dealer of American bass for 5years now.He has sold lots of american bass and used to run the VFL witch is there spl sub so i doubt your buddy had one of those and blew it.But until this year the XFL wasn't available.

So your 2cents doesn't count in this thread.I doubt you have ever heard an American Bass XFL

Originally Posted by SlamminTriple6

After reading all that bull sh1t i know you haven't heard an XFL.They just came out this year .Oh and don't try to tell me no they had them back when your friend was in high school because my friend has been a dealer of American bass for 5years now.He has sold lots of american bass and used to run the VFL witch is there spl sub so i doubt your buddy had one of those and blew it.But until this year the XFL wasn't available.

So your 2cents doesn't count in this thread.I doubt you have ever heard an American Bass XFL

Originally Posted by dustin420

my friend had on back in high school. had it on some audioburn 1500watt amp thats why i said maybe 800 true wrms. to me they sounded like cvr's where there a little muddy and don't have crazy good low end but still get the job done! know what i mean? anyway the kid had it in a decent box probbally around 3cf tuned to 35hz i think? not sure i know it was below 40 but above 30hz. well he blew it after like 2 months then took the baffle and cut a square hole out of the round on and stuck a L7 in their. same vc so probally using the same power and it really wasn't any louder than the xfl but had better low end. as far as i know he never blew the L7 and eventually upgraded. not to sure but anyway i know i only heard one install so take my opinion with a grain of salt but still i have heard one and thats what i thought about it.

Originally Posted by 97maxima

Well, im an Ab dealer and the wholesale house is not stocking them trip six, available dealer direct but thats about it.


The Xfl are some great woofers, feed them clean power and they exceed rms easily. ive ran one at 1400 watts daily and it never broke a sweat. They get loud but still have sq. by far a greater woofer than a l7 when it comes to power handleing. a great choice


dustin- please dont compare them to kicker unless you would make a statment like " the only sub kicker makes better than a xfl is a solo-x", what issues do you have with the build quality? have you taken a close look at them? or really just viewed them online?

Originally Posted by dustin420

meh their ok at best. only ever heard one 12 on maybe 800watts, sq id say comparable to a cvr maybe spl along the lines of an L7 on the same power. build quality idk thats the main issue i would have with them.

Originally Posted by SlamminTriple6

I seen those in whole sale house since my buddys a dealer there like $156+ shipping there pretty cheap but i havent heard of anybody running them yet since there new.

bump for info