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oh and here comes another monkey wrench straight from the mouth of the design engineer:

"I ploted the box and told you that it is not a musical sub. That sub was made for SPL reasons. I explained to you to have any ouput out of that speaker that it needed to be tuned very high.

Here is plotting your speaker in that box.
-6.9db @ 30hz
+0.5db @ 36hz
-3.8db @ 58hz
-2.9db @ 102hz

From that you can see why I didnt recommend that for you. I am not going to recommend a box to someone that I know is not going to sound good. I would feel better you knowing up front then you finding out after you have built it and want to know why there is no output."
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i really wanted them too
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yea try and find yourself some power HX2s on ebay...
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found!
http://cgi.ebay.com/RockFord-Fosgate...QQcmdZViewItem
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damn nice find!..... those are the same ones mead had in his civic!
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he did a 150 something didnt he?
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wtf?
didnt you always flame me for mentioning WMDs?
now your doing the same thing with the FIs!

although i might get them if i dont get the RFs
thats cause WMDs suck balls
my l7s would crush them and for the low low price of 209
fis are nice subs
or just get some 95s or mts
btw ur going alittle insane for a first system
i mean even gmonk started out small
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why buy something just to replace it?
its not like ive never heard bass before

BTW: I do want 2 15" or 18" MTs but I cant find any right now
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he did a 150 something didnt he?
yea with a wall and lotsa juice but you can do it too im sure if you had two anyways..
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PLAN:

What about a Team RF basket and motor with MT or 9500 soft parts?
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I have herd the Team RF woofer before in DD setups. I helped design the enclosure that the woofer went into. If you use the Team RF woofer its going have to be in a very larger enclosure. A very large enclosure will make a very peaky enclosure frequency response with a narrow level of bandwidth. Similar to how my enclosure is. Some people might think that sounds like crap. But personally I do not. I like enclosures with peaky responses because enclosures with peaky responses results in high SPL around the peek frequency of the enclosure.

This whole "can the trf woofer be used for music" is like my enclosure. If you called Rockford up right now and game them the specs of my enclosure and asked them if you could play music in they will probably say no. They would probably say its too big for music and you will blow up your woofers if you use it for music. Well I play music with it every day and my woofers are fine. Why? Because its all about how I use the enclosure. I don’t play bass with 25 Hz. tones in it at max volume. And inexperienced users do not know when too much is too much and that’s why they blow their stuff up and manufacturers say not to use large boxes for music.

Now the Team RF woofer is not a sound quality woofer. If you are expecting very tight bass with a wide bandwidth range, the trf woofer will not give it to you. The try woofer will have a very peaky response and it will sound very boomy. And consequently it will be very loud. Like I said before if you are looking for a very loud install that can play lil john and such, the trf woofer will do it. You can build a large enclosure and tune it to like 30 Hz. and it will freakin pound like no other to rap. If I did not think the rtf woofer can be used for music I would not consider them for my next install. Another person who has experience with the ref woofer on music is Christopher from Cactus Sounds. He posts on the Rockford forum under the name Team MBS. I suggest contacting him. He can tell you want to expect from the woofer on music. Hell he makes upgraded versions of the trf woofer so he would know.

So over all the trf woofer would be a good choice for someone like me. That is someone who has built his/ her system around SPL and who's primary focus is SPL, but still wants to be able to listen to his/her system with music.
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i think i will get the team RFs...hell, i asked my local shop and they said that they would give $400 for a good used one (back up plan if i dont like them )

so i dont have much to loose...i will learn from my mistakes :gay theme song: :roll credits:
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Well if you can get them for $300 and sell them for $400, buy all of them on ebay and sell them to the shop.
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*sigh* ok but dont say that i didnt warn you...
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