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Is it possible to install a 6.5 inch subwoofer into my door panels, instead of having a box in my car taking up room? I have 2 doors and 2 6.5s = 13 inches of cone area, so I'm thinking that's more cone area than one 12 inch, moving more air, and it should be cleaner because they're small. Am I right?
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sorry, but that is funny as fark. Go stick 2 6" subs on a 12 and come back to us.
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Son is it a good idea or not I have no time for your snarckary >_>

I'm just trying to come up with the best upgrade for my setup.
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Default Re: Installing subwoofers in doors?

that was funny, but don't think they would sound in the door, how they do in the trunk with a box.

And cone area doesn't work quite like that. You need geometry to figure the cone area differences
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I think what I'm gonna do is replace my back 6x9s with 2 6.5 subs and have a component setup for up front with the mid drivers and the tweets. That's gonna be swaggin.

I'm going for around 120-140 db SQ btw, I'm not wanting outrageously loud.
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Default Re: Installing subwoofers in doors?

now I've seen 8" subs fiberglassed into a doors as subs, but it depends on how far you're willing to go. The doors would have to be sealed up nice

If you put them in the 6x9 holes, they'll have to be good at free-air I believe
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Are you saying the 6x9 holes are too big for 6.5s? If so, would they fit 8s nicely?
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Default Re: Installing subwoofers in doors?

they would probably fit with an adapter. when you run speakers that way, they have to be able to perform without needing an enclosure. that's where the pros here come into play to recommend you something
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Wouldn't the door be the enclosure? Shouldn't that be good enough?
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Default Re: Installing subwoofers in doors?

a lot of the bass would escape thru the other side of the door. I'm just using this as an example, so no one beat me up, but these are the type of subs u need Example
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Default Re: Installing subwoofers in doors?

The door can be an enclosure but you would have to heavily sound deaden the doors or build a fiberglass enclosure into the door thats completely sealed off. Both will be fairly time consuming and materials can get costly. Buy a small eight or ten that is suitable for small sealed boxes like the tc epic 8 or maybe a fi q 10. Both would get louder and sound great doing it. I have seen four 6 1/2 subs in a box attached to the top of the truck so they where out of the way and everyone thought they were two tens. There are many different options for you for all different prices. How much are you willing to spend and what car do you drive so maybe we can help you find something to suite your needs.
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Son is it a good idea or not I have no time for your snarckary >_>

I'm just trying to come up with the best upgrade for my setup.
2, 6.5" drivers do not equate to 13" of cone area or equal that of a 12" driver
a 6.5" driver, is about 26 square inches..
a 12" driver, is about 113" square inches

as far as getting 140 out of 4, 6.5" drivers, out of a door ib, good luck.. I wouldnt try it..
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Default Re: Installing subwoofers in doors?

Lol I laughed several times in this thread.

Why don't you want to use a box? That is the best thing to do lol. If you want to put subs somewhere other than the trunk in your car the next option would be to put some 8's in the rear deck but that would require way more effort than just building a good box and putting a 12 in it.
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Sorry, I wasn't trying to insult you or demean your idea in anyway. We all have derp moments (which you'll realize you did in a moment), particularly when we're young (I'm damn near twice your age btw).

Simple mathematics. Surface area of a circle = Radius squared times Pi.

6.5" sub: 3.25 x 3.25 = 10.5625 x 3.14 = 33.16625sqin.

12" sub: 6 x 6 = 36 x 3.14 = 113.04sqin.

So you would need 4 6.5" subs to get slightly more surface area than a 12" sub. However, a typical 12" sub has 74sqin of surface area due to the surround decreasing the overall cone size. And the same applies to 6.5's. They typically would be 20sqin. Plus the larger the surround, the smaller the cone area. And even a small decrease in the diameter can make a huge drop in area.

If you are set on not having a box in the back, you could go for 8's in the doors, but you'd need to do a fiberglass custom enclosure for them. TC Epic 8's spring to mind if you want SQ. They have around 50sqin of cone area, so 1 8 in each door would have more cone area than 2 6.5's in each door. The 8's would also work in the same volume as the 6.5's.

You could also get 2 Epic 8's for around the price of 2 DD 6.5's.
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Sorry, I wasn't trying to insult you or demean your idea in anyway. We all have derp moments (which you'll realize you did in a moment), particularly when we're young (I'm damn near twice your age btw).

Simple mathematics. Surface area of a circle = Radius squared times Pi.

6.5" sub: 3.25 x 3.25 = 10.5625 x 3.14 = 33.16625sqin.

12" sub: 6 x 6 = 36 x 3.14 = 113.04sqin.

So you would need 4 6.5" subs to get slightly more surface area than a 12" sub. However, a typical 12" sub has 74sqin of surface area due to the surround decreasing the overall cone size. And the same applies to 6.5's. They typically would be 20sqin. Plus the larger the surround, the smaller the cone area. And even a small decrease in the diameter can make a huge drop in area.

If you are set on not having a box in the back, you could go for 8's in the doors, but you'd need to do a fiberglass custom enclosure for them. TC Epic 8's spring to mind if you want SQ. They have around 50sqin of cone area, so 1 8 in each door would have more cone area than 2 6.5's in each door. The 8's would also work in the same volume as the 6.5's.

You could also get 2 Epic 8's for around the price of 2 DD 6.5's.
The epic 8 would probably be way too deep for doors. You could easily fit a 12 inch shallow mount with a custom fiberglass pod. But again lots of work. Its actually not that hard to build a box in the rear deck of a trunked car.. that would be a better option.
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The epic 8 would probably be way too deep for doors. You could easily fit a 12 inch shallow mount with a custom fiberglass pod. But again lots of work. Its actually not that hard to build a box in the rear deck of a trunked car.. that would be a better option.
I know 8's would be deep but depending on the car door and how much leg room he wants to sacrifice, it could be done. Just take a look at Sventz's car.
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