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This thread says it's been updated as of 12 hours ago, but the above post was 08-24-8?

Confused.

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i am wanting to know how this dude can say that the AQ will not put out rated with out knowing what exact parts are in it.
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I'd like to see some bench test results. Anyone have some?
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I'd like to see some bench test results. Anyone have some?
here ya go. 5th post down. assuming matt.u is correct.
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from my point of view i love my aq 3500d and the clipping light is icing on the cake
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well when i bought my amps and subs from AQ they all came with a flier and it has the ratings of the 3500d @ 2 ohm stating that it will put out 1,860 watts rms @ 2 ohm 14.4v
and 990 @ 4 ohm 14.4v and it says that is at 1% thd so imagine if you clip it just a little.
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What I love about this thread is that bigbadwolf is claiming the AQ3500 to be an overrated amp when Jacob at Sundown, a direct competitor to Audioque, bench tested the AQ3500 and found it to be, in fact, an underrated amp. Do drugs much?
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All of our amps do rated Power and a little more. Our amps are Ap (Audio precision) tested and that's what they are rated at. I don't underrate for marketing purposes nor do I overrate. They are what they are.

Our new AQ3500D.1 is scheduled for shipping in late December. It will have an Ap tested rating of 4300 watts at 1 ohm at less then 1%thd at 14.4

1400 @ 4ohm @ less then 1%thd @ 14.4
2600 @ 2ohm @ less then 1%thd @ 14.4
4300 @ 1ohm @ less then 1% thd @ 14.4
5300 @ 16v @ 1ohm @ less then 1%thd
6000 @ 18v @ 1ohm @ less then 1%thd
7000 @ 18v @ 1ohm @ 6%thd

8600 @ 14.4v @ 2ohm strapped @ less then 1%thd
10,600 @ 16v @ 2ohm strapped @ less then 1%thd
12,000 @ 18v @ 2ohm atrapped @ less then 1%thd

14,000 @ 18v @ 2ohm strapped @ 6%thd

Testing at 14.4v based on CEA(2006)
Working voltage: 9.5-18.5

Pricing will be the same as the AQ3500D before the X-mas sale.
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LOL @ Some of the people and stuff in this thread.....

Both are proven products. Not a smart idea to ask this kind of question on a site like this.Some of the results your gonna get are going to be biased without the voter really even know what he is voting on.

I would choose whichever amp meets the price, what amp matches your subs/electrical the best, and what amp feels right to you.
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All of our amps do rated Power and a little more. Our amps are Ap (Audio precision) tested and that's what they are rated at. I don't underrate for marketing purposes nor do I overrate. They are what they are.

Our new AQ3500D.1 is scheduled for shipping in late December. It will have an Ap tested rating of 4300 watts at 1 ohm at less then 1%thd at 14.4

1400 @ 4ohm @ less then 1%thd @ 14.4
2600 @ 2ohm @ less then 1%thd @ 14.4
4300 @ 1ohm @ less then 1% thd @ 14.4
5300 @ 16v @ 1ohm @ less then 1%thd
6000 @ 18v @ 1ohm @ less then 1%thd
7000 @ 18v @ 1ohm @ 6%thd

8600 @ 14.4v @ 2ohm strapped @ less then 1%thd
10,600 @ 16v @ 2ohm strapped @ less then 1%thd
12,000 @ 18v @ 2ohm atrapped @ less then 1%thd

14,000 @ 18v @ 2ohm strapped @ 6%thd

Testing at 14.4v based on CEA(2006)
Working voltage: 9.5-18.5

Pricing will be the same as the AQ3500D before the X-mas sale.
holy sh!t i shoulda waited. well looks like im getting another amp come december.
still love it none the less.
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I like Sundown because they have good reputation and customers services
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I know the BXi2608D is less power, but, less than 1/2 the cost. Simply Build quality? Everyone says they do rated, so let's not go there.
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I know the BXi2608D is less power, but, less than 1/2 the cost. Simply build quality? Everyone says they do rated, so let's not go there.
Pretty much, the Hifonics amps do exactly rated at exactly 14.4v whereas AQ tends to be slightly underrated and Sundown is underrated by a good bit. I'll bet the AQ and Sundown take more of a beating too and sound a bit better.
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seeing that the new Aq 3500 has more power and is cheaper($650 after christmas sale) than Sundowns saz2000, ($600+) , and since they don't make the saz3000d, now the saz3500, is like $1000 bucks. Aq also has a 2 yr warranty, i don't know how long for the Sundown,maybe 3 yrs. but i guess that's where the extra $350 is going too, customer service? and what good is customer service. I've owned alot of audio gear over the last 20 yrs, and i've never had to call customer service, why??? My gear never broke., so the best costumer service is no costumer service!!!
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seeing that the new Aq 3500 has more power and is cheaper($650 after christmas sale) than Sundowns saz2000, ($600+) , and since they don't make the saz3000d, now the saz3500, is like $1000 bucks. Aq also has a 2 yr warranty, i don't know how long for the Sundown,maybe 3 yrs. but i guess that's where the extra $350 is going too, customer service? and what good is customer service. I've owned alot of audio gear over the last 20 yrs, and i've never had to call customer service, why??? My gear never broke., so the best costumer service is no costumer service!!!
the components are diffrent also the method in which each amp is sold Sundown is dealer based where as the Audioque is a direct buy
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not to knock AQ buy any means at all cuz they make good stuff ( low end China made DD stuff from what my close sources tell me), but the reason my sources tell me they have good customer service is cuz they only have about 5-10 people their including the owner. now I have heard alot of their stuff and would not hesitate to buy it but not for the price they ask. same or better can be had if you shop you around for a comparable price.
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not to knock AQ buy any means at all cuz they make good stuff ( low end China made DD stuff from what my close sources tell me), but the reason my sources tell me they have good customer service is cuz they only have about 5-10 people their including the owner. now I have heard alot of their stuff and would not hesitate to buy it but not for the price they ask. same or better can be had if you shop you around for a comparable price.
We do not purchase "low end China stuff" We do purchase Chinese parts for some of our subwoofers but they are the best parts available. Final assembly on all of our subs is done in house. The HDC3 alum series use the best American spiders and coils. All most every company buys magnets, baskets off sure because they are no longer produced in the USA. Many well know companies also buy spiders, coils and cones offshore or the entire subwoofer.

All of our amplifiers are made in South Korea. We do not have a single amplifier made in China nor will we ever have one made in China. Our amps have a proven track record of performance, reliability and value per watt. Every amp has a factory "burn" in and every single amp is tested before leaving the factory.

Our comp sets are made in Germany because the Germans make the best comps. The amps are made in South Korea because that's where the quality is. The Chinese do very well with subwoofer parts if you are willing to pay for the best parts and that's what we buy.

We have good customer service because I believe service does not end with the sale. Customer service really begins after the sale.

Good customer service is easy when you sell a good product to begin with and service what you sell. We service very few subs and seldom have to repair an amp other then those that have been abused. Our repair center is NOT a profit center. We only repair our products for our customers and we do it on a nonprofit base. This is a part of customer service.

If you call our number you get to talk to the owner. If you e-mail us you get a timely respone from the owner. I don't have my calls screened or refuse to take calls. If I am not available when you call your call will be returned.
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i wasnt saying the product is low end china stuff, i was saying it is china / korea w/e low end DD stuff. ( which is exactly what i was told buy a direct source fwiw ) great product either way, I wasnt knocking it at all.
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If you call our number you get to talk to the owner. If you e-mail us you get a timely respone from the owner. I don't have my calls screened or refuse to take calls. If I am not available when you call your call will be returned.
very true. i had a small problem with them when i bought my subs. i called them (DJ answered) and i was pissed. he was at home at the time, so i was talking to him and he apologized and instead of saying "well call me tomorrow and i will see what i can do". he shot straight to his shop and handled everything. i was very pleased and that is why i bought my amp and i will always recommend AQ to everyone
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DD makes very high end DD stuff, I know that for a fact. AQ makes very high end AQ stuff, I also know that for a fact. The sub designs are not the same. My Son's designs are much more evolved and much more expensive to produce.
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just so i dont get misquoted, i said i think they make good products, also so i dont misquote : Car Audio Message Forum - CarStereo.com
that is where i got the info from and i trust the person that said it very much. he seems to know both companies personally first hand.
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We rate the AQ1200D at 1200 watts at 14.4 volts based on CEA (2006). If you run it at 5% thd (mild clip) it does 1470 watts. Most endusers run their amps around 10% thd and never know they are into clipping.. We include a clipping indicator on the remote to let you know when you push the amp into clipping.

Our advertised specs tell you exactly what the amps have been Ap tested to produce and under what conditions. I don't under rate or over rate our amps for marketing purposes. They are what they are. They have been proven time and again to be reliable and produce rated power.

I can't count the number of posts on various forums I have read by people who claim to have "an inside source" regarding AQ/DD products and the relationships between our two companies and the owners; most (not all)of which borders on pure speculation or assumptions. One may quote a post but that doesn't mean the quoted post is factual.

AQ at the present time is an internet sales only company. We do not stock a large selection to pick from. We produce only 2 series of subs, a single comp set, 3 class D amps and a single 4x90 amp. We sell only products that move off of the shelves in high volume. We don't advertise, sponsor or offer discounts. We don't support a dealer network; everyone pays the same price. That's how we keep our pricing levels down.

What we do sell is high quality products that everyone can afford.
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We rate the AQ1200D at 1200 watts at 14.4 volts based on CEA (2006). If you run it at 5% thd (mild clip) it does 1470 watts. Most endusers run their amps around 10% thd and never know they are into clipping.. We include a clipping indicator on the remote to let you know when you push the amp into clipping.

Our advertised specs tell you exactly what the amps have been Ap tested to produce and under what conditions. I don't under rate or over rate our amps for marketing purposes. They are what they are. They have been proven time and again to be reliable and produce rated power.

I can't count the number of posts on various forums I have read by people who claim to have "an inside source" regarding AQ/DD products and the relationships between our two companies and the owners; most (not all)of which borders on pure speculation or assumptions. One may quote a post but that doesn't mean the quoted post is factual.

AQ at the present time is an internet sales only company. We do not stock a large selection to pick from. We produce only 2 series of subs, a single comp set, 3 class D amps and a single 4x90 amp. We sell only products that move off of the shelves in high volume. We don't advertise, sponsor or offer discounts. We don't support a dealer network; everyone pays the same price. That's how we keep our pricing levels down.

What we do sell is high quality products that everyone can afford.
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Default Re: AQ3500D vs SAZ-3000D

i can agree with that.
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We rate the AQ1200D at 1200 watts at 14.4 volts based on CEA (2006). If you run it at 5% thd (mild clip) it does 1470 watts. Most endusers run their amps around 10% thd and never know they are into clipping.. We include a clipping indicator on the remote to let you know when you push the amp into clipping.

Our advertised specs tell you exactly what the amps have been Ap tested to produce and under what conditions. I don't under rate or over rate our amps for marketing purposes. They are what they are. They have been proven time and again to be reliable and produce rated power.

I can't count the number of posts on various forums I have read by people who claim to have "an inside source" regarding AQ/DD products and the relationships between our two companies and the owners; most (not all)of which borders on pure speculation or assumptions. One may quote a post but that doesn't mean the quoted post is factual.

AQ at the present time is an internet sales only company. We do not stock a large selection to pick from. We produce only 2 series of subs, a single comp set, 3 class D amps and a single 4x90 amp. We sell only products that move off of the shelves in high volume. We don't advertise, sponsor or offer discounts. We don't support a dealer network; everyone pays the same price. That's how we keep our pricing levels down.

What we do sell is high quality products that everyone can afford.
It don't get much more honest, straight forward, and to the point as this. All straight from the horse's mouth. I feel it is very refreshing for a manufacturer to be so candid and up front about their product. To not advertise fictional ratings conjured from imagination. I am only sad that I did not come across this company sooner and saved myself hundreds, if not thousands, of dollars spent over the years on lower end over rated garbage because that was all I could afford.

I would like to personally say Thank You DJ, for producing a quality product that the AVERAGE person can afford.

I have no doubt in my mind that Sundown makes quality products, but in all reality, a person like me, going to college, with three kids, and a house mortgage is not going to be able to afford comparable products from Sundown. Just my $.02!

JD, as soon as my income tax comes through, you will be hearing from me.
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Default Re: AQ3500D vs SAZ-3000D

" the source " is biased because they are the source. think about that. still a good product but trusting the source is like trusting an attorney lol.
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