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Hey guys. I had a question about trying to determine what an amp will put out. Someone once told me that so matter what the amp or the box that it came in says about wattage, all you have to do is look at the fuses on the amp add up the values and multiply by the battery voltage and that is how muhc Power its putting out in watts. is this true?

I have a boss 2500 watt amp which i knew was overrated but it had 3x30 amp fuses so i figured it put out 1000 watt and it was 5 channel so it did what i needed an amp to do. Someone once told me on this that for around 1000 watts you dont need anything more then 4 gauge wire. I feel like that sometimes i have voltage problems and getting power loss in my Car so i almost feel like i need another battery or a HO alt. so is there a guideline somewhere on which size Wire for what wattage and when is there a point when i need to start getting a HO alt. and/or more batteries?
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You'd be lucky to be getting 1k out of it, more like 8-900 and the sub channel which pulls the most amperage would likely only be 500wrms.

I'd think the biggest agm battery you can fit under your hood should solve your problem. Unless you have a dinky little alt, then you might consider a larger alt.
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Also, 4 gauge would be fine. You need to do The Big 3, too.
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If that's what you're working with for the moment, then you need a good run of 4 gauge power wire and a ground wire that's no longer than 3 1/2 feet long. I go with a 3 feet long ground wire.

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I bought the boss amp because it put out the most power across 5 channels for the price range.

what does AGM stand for?

and my stock alt. puts out like 60 amps...
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is there a guideline somewhere saying what size wire to use for amps? and is it necessary to run large wire between the amp and sub woofers?
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is there a guideline somewhere saying what size wire to use for amps? and is it necessary to run large wire between the amp and sub woofers?
4 gauge what you want for your application.

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As for speaker wire, you would be fine with like 16 gauge wire. The largest speaker wire I have hear of someone using was 10 gauge. He eventually took it out and replaced it with 12 gauge wire because the 10 gauge wire was so big it kept falling out of the terminals.
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agm battery = a good mofo

nah its absorption glass matt. and they discharge and charge much faster than a standard lead acid.
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Have you still got the 05 STI? Apparently they have a 90amp alt in them.

I'd try a bigger AGM battery to begin with then look at a 160-200amp HO alt if the batt doesn't solve the problem. Something like this should do -

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yea, i still got the STI. will that battery fit under the hood? if not then can you rec. one that does? preferably from ebay since i do alot of shopping there...
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Have you still got the 05 STI? Apparently they have a 90amp alt in them.

I'd try a bigger AGM battery to begin with then look at a 160-200amp HO alt if the batt doesn't solve the problem. Something like this should do -

XS POWER D925 CAR AUDIO POWERCELL BATTERY 12V 2000W | eBay
Thats only 28 ah ... for the same price you can get a shuriken skbt60. I would get one of those and put it at the amp and either leave your starting battery the same or replace it with a skbt20. You want the shortest distance between your amp and the source giving it the most current.
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yea, i still got the STI. will that battery fit under the hood? if not then can you rec. one that does? preferably from ebay since i do alot of shopping there...
I have no idea what would fit under the hood. You'd have to go measure the area you have available and either let us know or research it yourself. O'reillys have cheap and apparently dependable AGMs.

As Sintor said, the Shuriken would be good.

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Thats only 28 ah ... for the same price you can get a shuriken skbt60. I would get one of those and put it at the amp and either leave your starting battery the same or replace it with a skbt20. You want the shortest distance between your amp and the source giving it the most current.
Was more of an example than a "Get this". Actually thought it was $120 as well...
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Was more of an example than a "Get this". Actually thought it was $120 as well...
... i don't understand lol
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... i don't understand lol
He didn't know what an AGM battery is. I was trying to point him in the right direction.
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He didn't know what an AGM battery is. I was trying to point him in the right direction.
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I forget that some people don't research shet as much as I do. Was just a starting point but without knowing the size he can fit it's useless recommending anything.
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I would be willing to bet the skbt20 would fit into any.. i mean any stock location.. It would probably be a little small but thats easy to fix. And yeah... I have spent so much time reading about shet its ridicoulous... lol
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