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Slobalt7 11-19-2012 03:29 PM

Slobalt7's Log, coming out slow and painfully.
 
Well to start off my introduction into car audio started years ago... I grew up with Acoustic Research, Audiobahn, MA Audio(pre-buyout) and Fosgate.

Then I got a Cobalt LS in 06 and fell into a typical American style of caring for nothing but,"those ten seconds or less." After coming to the conclusion of being in quite a few faster cars and sinking over 6k into it for preparation for stupid power and no drivability I got bored with it and discovered that car's don't always have to make left turns... About 1k later in new and used suspension parts it can turn like a dream but it is still lacking something. Up until about 2 years ago I had forgotten how nice it is to make loud noises without having to empty the gas tank. Unfortunately I was reborn into the Fayetteville NC Car Audio scene... Mostly consisting of SMD fanboys, Boss 5k's, Pyle 18's, and Pyramids as far as the eye can see... I happened to come across a shop that, although was a pawn shop, actually knew something about car audio and bought a pair of Fosgate 6x9's to replace my blown rears. I dug my old MA80xe's out of the closet and started on a search for a decent amp and box... At the time I didn't have access to the tools I would need to build a box and honestly didn't know the first thing about them but was not about to buy a $150 box from any of the local shops for some $50 subs. A year or so later I happened to come across a pair of sealed .35^ft single truck boxes and said f it and got them. Now on to an amp... Needs to be 1 ohm stable and around 250wrms... A few months later I decided to go back to the pawn shop and in a display case there was a MINTY RF PBR300.1 for $120. Mine.

Found the manual on RF's website and wired it up to one ohm... 2 5 year old subs in two trashy prefabs on 300wrms hitting 129.6. Rolling now! Still blown front stage but f it. Started researching and joined SMD where I conversed with Kevin of Skar Audio. They were just about to release their MA-8 line and with my infatuation with small subs and my buddy coming into some money and offering to loan me I got two of them. They came in and we build a 1^ft ported to 45htz. Because these were 2 ohm DVC instead of 4 ohm DVC we decided to wire them to 2 ohms and on 150 rms of the teensy PBR I hit 131.1.

Life caught up with me and I had to miss some great opportunities due to my car going down twice in a month and I was getting discouraged, though events today I think I am back on track...

Current build list for those who don't care to read above:
Rockford Fosgate 6x9's
Rockford Fosgate PBR300.1
(2)Skar Audio MA-8
Custom 1^ft ported enclosure

Have yet to install(just came in today!!!):
Rockford Fosgate Power Series 6.5's
Shuriken 850amp Battery

Future Plans:
MA Audio HK401sx
or
Audiobahn A16000J

Big 3
and more...

Couple pics...
Battery just shipped in and Picked up a set of 6.5's from the pawn shop... Pretty good condition, looks 6.5/10 sound 10/10:

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MA80xe and MA-8 comparo while building MA80 box:

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More pics when I fix the Cobalt and get it back from sitting in my Mom's yard across town.

Slobalt7 11-28-2012 05:30 PM

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Update... Got my 1/0(25 ft OFC welding wire rated at 600V 25 ft length 300A), Lug Connectors, and some other stuff... Now whenever I get time(and can get another hand) I will be installing the 1/0 for my BIG 3, 2004 RF Power Ti 6.5's up front, Re-installing my PBR300.1 and MA-8's, and my Shuruken BT20... Then I will be looking for POWA! and hopefully building a 6th order with a sealed off trunk with the ports firing directly into the cabin... Depending on power levels I am shooting for a 140 on my buddy's termlab. They say doubling power or cone area adds 3db which would mean I only need about 450wrms to hit 140.1(assuming everything does it by exactly 3db... Also with a box which will hit harder and smaller cf with the trunk sealed... should be there.

KingPen 11-28-2012 06:33 PM

Re: Slobalt7's Log, coming out slow and painfully.
 
so your running two different subs?. Hope the box isn't a common chamber.

nkrell11 11-28-2012 06:34 PM

Re: Slobalt7's Log, coming out slow and painfully.
 
The whole 3db thing is for perfect world scenarios but it sounds like you are on the right track.

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Originally Posted by jcarver1112 (Post 925537)
so your running two different subs?. Hope the box isn't a common chamber.

I think that he said he installed the MA 8's so I think he's running the same unless he's running 3 subs.

Slobalt7 11-28-2012 06:56 PM

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Thanks for the reassurance!

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcarver1112 (Post 925537)
so your running two different subs?. Hope the box isn't a common chamber.

Nah, I am running the MA-8's now. I was running the MA80xe's for a while on my home theatre then threw them in the car when I got the PBR300.1, then got the MA-8's. It is a common chamber 1CF tuned pretty high... It is currently a little more than a one note wonder but volume maxed on bass I love you still couldn't bottom out the subs... Although we put them in my buddies car so I could see how they handled a little more power(600rms) and they ended up cracking my double baffle(3/4 x 2)...

Slobalt7 11-29-2012 07:33 PM

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I know I already have pics of some of this stuff but here is the install list and I am shooting for sunday:

25 ft 1/0 OFC wire, 2 1 ft sections of 2/0 wire, 1/0 heat shrink, 1/0 lugs, Shruken BT-20, Poly-netting for various accents, 2004 RF T1 6.5", 10G power wire for speaker wire, and that is it for now...
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I am sorry about the crappy pics but to make a long story short my wife broke my gopro so all I have now is a 4 year old camera phone...

Slobalt7 12-02-2012 06:04 PM

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Bat is installed and cables modded. Tomorrow door speakers will go in(with ****ty cell pics) and possibly the big three will be started. After bat cables for big three are done subs and amp going back in. Christmas I am apparently getting car audio goodies and will be installing those with "how-to style" documentation(again, with ****ty cell pics).

Hopefully soon I can start on my 6th order project.

Slobalt7 12-10-2012 04:01 PM

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6.5's in the doors! I so missed my front stage, still need to adjust the one on the passenger side though. Got a couple pics, unfortunately to get them in I had to cut the oem speaker out because it is built into the teardrop mount but the only hard part was getting the damn window crank clip off because they decided to make the crank base piece mold around it...

Slobalt7 12-11-2012 06:48 PM

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New amp going in, Audiobahn A275HCT. Bought it used(obviously) and all but the side LED's work. All Pot's work, All terminals work, even the output meters...
Will try to get pics up tonight.

T1's:
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What was left of drivers side stock speaker:
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Audiobahn:
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cxa0897 12-12-2012 05:56 AM

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Jesus Christ. I have seen better pictures taken from a potato.

Are you sure that thing is only 4 years old?

Slobalt7 12-12-2012 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by cxa0897 (Post 926298)
Jesus Christ. I have seen better pictures taken from a potato.

Are you sure that thing is only 4 years old?

Haha, yeah I am a termite technician and take my phone under houses with me in case of emergencies. It is a bit more than a little banged up. No point in getting some new fancy phone since I will probably break it every few days.

cxa0897 12-12-2012 10:07 AM

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Get an otter case, get a new phone, problem solved ;)

Slobalt7 12-12-2012 10:23 AM

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Lol, if you want to pay for it.

little-kid-wit-bass 12-12-2012 03:58 PM

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Or buy a seperate camera for personal use. Lol.

armykyle1 12-12-2012 07:23 PM

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I rocked rockford speakers way back. I liked them.

Slobalt7 12-14-2012 06:19 PM

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Hell yeah bro, I am definitely a fan of RF but I don't have RF money and they don't support those of us who want ignorant SPL from tiny speakers(like my 8's or even American Bass 6.5's).

Quote:

Originally Posted by little-kid-wit-bass (Post 926333)
Or buy a seperate camera for personal use. Lol.

You trying to pay for it? My money goes to bills then family and if I have any left over I will either save it or buy something for myself which is usually something to make my car even more offensive to your average motorist.

Beckerson1 12-14-2012 06:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Slobalt7 (Post 926408)
Hell yeah bro, I am definitely a fan of RF but I don't have RF money and they don't support those of us who want ignorant SPL from tiny speakers(like my 8's or even American Bass 6.5's).


You trying to pay for it? My money goes to bills then family and if I have any left over I will either save it or buy something for myself which is usually something to make my car even more offensive to your average motorist.

Depending on local sales/auctions they can be dirt cheap. Aunt bought a simple P&S digital camera for $5. Takes decent pictures...

Anyway bills and family are important

Slobalt7 12-14-2012 07:04 PM

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I know, wifey has a pretty decent Kodak but I don't feel like putting up with it since it usually spends more time lost than being used. It also doesn't do anything for close ups or video.

As a side note got the Audiobahn in and Skars back in, ran a headphone jack-rca converter on the input side to test them out and worked pretty damn good with all gains down and ssf off it still hit pretty well of the Ipod, ran it to my LOC and barely audible... I was pissed, after redoing my connections to the LOC it still didn't hit for sh*t. After adjusting the LOC it started beating! I clamped it with all gains down I got right around 200WRMS on White Clouds with the head neutral and the amp all down. Not bad for 2 ohms on a A275 from 2004.

Slobalt7 01-31-2013 06:21 PM

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Small update, found a mint Rockford Fosgate .50F cap at a local pawn shop for $20 new old stock still in original packaging. I know they don't really do anything but stress additional electronics but I am thinking of throwing it in for giggles. Still haven't done the big three yet, seems like I have no time and when I do have time I am working on or driving my drift RC car. Now I am trying to buy a house so this build is currently postponed for a while...

Slobalt7 02-17-2013 08:32 AM

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Well unfortunately this build may be over before it even got good...

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Explanation from my facebook posts:
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So i got hit by two cars when leaving work today... IMO the Cobalt may be dead... Mentally tallying up everything to fix it and it is very near the 70% totaled cost for most insurances.... Had that car for 7 years of my life. I can't even bull****, I cried... several times. All because one jackass had to run a light.
Quote:

Yeah, had the green as did the car oncoming, I was attempting to turn left onto Grove Street and the oncoming car was coming straight, I eased forward waiting on him to take his sweet ass time... I see movement to my left and this moron with a jeep is coming straight at my driver's door around 45mph.I slam on the horn and yell "FFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKK !" and in slow motion the jeep runs the light, clips the oncoming car, slams into my passenger quarter and the oncoming car hits me in my front fender/headlight/bumper/wheel/suspension...
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If it wasn't for the oncoming car not paying attention I would probably not be here typing. He was coming straight for me... The next time anyone would have seen me would either at the hospital or in a box and I know when it is our time there is no point to fight it but God was looking out for me.

49konvict 02-17-2013 08:35 AM

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Dude thatd nothing. I seriously doubt its totaled.

Slobalt7 02-17-2013 09:43 AM

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The insurance company hasn't taken a look at it yet but they said because it is more than 7 years old and it seems the whole drivers side would generally need to be replaced they would "probably" just total it out.

Also mechanically the front subframe is bent, along with the strut and the upper strut tower. Hard to tell but with the steering wheel straight that front wheel has ~10* camber.

97_eldo 02-17-2013 12:01 PM

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sorry to hear that.
it's dependent on sub-frame and suspension damage.
the body stuff doesn't look that bad. you can't be looking for the top price shops to get it fixed tho cause that would likely end up being a write off. it's a dirty game the bodywork business, some places give ya quality at a decent price but there are those that charge quality prices for cheap unsafe work.
glad to hear that you made it thru ok and good luck with the rest of this journey.

take care and have fun.

Slobalt7 02-19-2013 04:13 PM

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My buddy who owns D&D Customs of Red Springs NC quoted me $3400 to get it all fixed, now I am just waiting on the damn claim adjuster.

Slobalt7 02-22-2013 09:01 PM

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Adjuster talked to my buddy and they agreed on 3800... and he is going to repaint the whole car so IDK what colors I should go with, I wanna go two tone...

97_eldo 02-22-2013 10:03 PM

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good to hear they are gonna fix it for ya. all is not a total loss :)

Slobalt7 02-25-2013 05:45 PM

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Yeah, I was sweating bullets when the adjuster came out but he was a cool old guy and asked me if I personally wanted it totaled, I told him no and he told me I should make a list of mods I have done, that they add a percent to the value of the car(I had already made one so I gave it to him) and after an hour of deliberation between him and someone on the phone along with him plugging info into his laptop he said they were willing to throw 3800 toward getting it fixed so I gave him my buddy's number and Thursday it was towed to his shop. Now I am waiting on him to work his magic and I will have Burt my Bittersweet Bastard back and he will have new paint all around, now I just need to put new tires on another pair of his shoes so he can strut around in style, then get more bump for the trunk.

Slobalt7 03-12-2013 04:47 PM

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Almost done with paint!!!!!!!

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armykyle1 03-12-2013 05:06 PM

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looking good!

Beckerson1 03-12-2013 06:13 PM

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Looks really nice

Slobalt7 03-12-2013 06:47 PM

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Thanks guys, it will still have my green/orange bbs's on it for now but hopefully soon I can get one of my sets of 16's on it until I can put some money into refinishing some of my other rimzes.

97_eldo 03-12-2013 07:03 PM

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fresh paint does wonders.

looks good glad to see it's coming back together.
good luck on your journey.

take care and have fun:)

Slobalt7 03-12-2013 09:57 PM

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Yeah! Now I wanna rebuild my box, glass it and have him paint that!

Slobalt7 03-17-2013 02:30 PM

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Paint is done aside from front lip, next move, get tires for some of my other sets of rims so I can loose the orange and green.
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97_eldo 03-17-2013 02:57 PM

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almost back to the fun stuff.

looks good, glad to see it rollin again.

southerntrendkill 03-17-2013 05:35 PM

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so i guess it was a good thing that you "accidently" had to get a freash paintjob haha

Slobalt7 05-29-2013 09:48 PM

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Thanks guys, small update, got a pair of T2 Reactor Audio tweets, hopefully they will be in by the end of the week. Also got a PPi 600.2 Phantom for mids, going to get another PPI 600.2 and 4 Crescendo PDX 6.5's and see how I like the mids and highs with that setup... Then continue on my sub stage.

Slobalt7 06-10-2013 07:55 PM

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So, a little bit of an update. I have decided to take an idea from blackg5's box but instead of doing a single 18 I am going to try 3 separate Quarter wave enclosures mounted together with subs and ports up for my MA-8's, since I now have three along, with the trunk sealed off and the box positioned cross wise in the back seat area. I am going to run two PPI Phantom 600.2's, one for mids and one for highs(I have one along with one pair of the Reactor Audio R2 tweeters) and the mids one will be running two pair of Crescendo PWX 6.5's(two per door). I still haven't decided what amp to run my sub stage off of but all of it will be on a PPI eq with a RF 360 BLD pushing the sub stage around.

Cliffs on projected setup:

What I have already will be posted in red and bold.

60 AH AGM
(3)Skar MA-8

(2 pair)(1 pair)Reactor Audio R2
(2 pair) Crescendo PWX 6.5
(2)(1) PPI Phantom 600.2
(1) 1500wrms mono block
(1) RF 360 BLD
(1)PPI E.DZ

Still havent decided on the mono I wanna go with but as long as it is around 1300 rms at 1.33 then we are good.

Slobalt7 06-22-2013 04:45 PM

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New update... Happened to be talking to a guy on CACO facebook and he came by and dropped off something for me... When he came by he had a friend with him and after talking to them for a few minutes I realized I had actually met them a few years back at a show in 2010. Long story short, some old friends sold me a MINT SAX100.4... So can anyone guess what that means for my setup?

666WMD 06-23-2013 12:36 AM

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You're ditching the PPI in favour of an amp worth more than your car? :lol: :p


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