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Hey all couple of questions that I could use help with.

A friend is upgrading his speakers in his car. The Car can take up to a 6 3/4 up front and a 6x9 in the rear. I was thinking about doing some of the sundown 6.5 components all the way around but wanted to see what other options might be out there.
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100-150 rms per speaker.
woofer that will play down pretty low, like 50-60 hz
Priced 150-200 per pair.

Also would anyone advise agains replacing the rear 6x9s with 6.5s, or any thoughts on that in general.

Also maybe throw some amp ideas out there to could do 125+ rms per channel, budget friendly

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here are some of the sets I was initially eyeballing.

Mezzo series... Not sure if this is for a pair or for just one
Mezzo Series 6.5" Reference 2 Way - Crescendo audio | Online Store

sundown 6.5's Again not sure if price is for one set or each.
http://forum.realmofexcursion.com/su...pre-order.html

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I just did an install with the sundowns and I was very impressed even though they were on head unit power. Sq was great and they got quite loud. I also love my b2 components. I don't think that you can go wrong with either one of those. They both sound great, get loud, and have no problem playing low. If you go the b2 route ask for the es6.5i components. They have an upgraded crossover and are the same price. If it were me and I wanted rear fill I would just get another component set to match the front.

Oh and the price for the sundowns is per set.
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I just did an install with the sundowns and I was very impressed even though they were on head unit power. Sq was great and they got quite loud. I also love my b2 components. I don't think that you can go wrong with either one of those. They both sound great, get loud, and have no problem playing low. If you go the b2 route ask for the es6.5i components. They have an upgraded crossover and are the same price. If it were me and I wanted rear fill I would just get another component set to match the front.

Oh and the price for the sundowns is per set.
cool thanks,

Were the B2's per set and the 100w rms that they state, is it per set or per speaker/tweeter combo
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cool thanks,

Were the B2's per set and the 100w rms that they state, is it per set or per speaker/tweeter combo
Yes the b2s are priced per set and the rms rating is per side (speaker tweeter combo). I am running 150 rms per side crossed at 80hz with no issues at all.
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Mezzo's

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Does anyone else have any recommendations on other possible component choices.

And what about amps. I could use some ideas for 2 or 4 channel amps. Around the $200 range would be nice.

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I know that beckerson likes his Hifonics Zeus 4 channel. Power is decent and the sq is pretty good. I'm running an older 2 channel hifonics on mine and I don't really have any complaints. I would say to look at the mbquarts too but the paint on the heatsinks fades very fast and looks bad. I think PPI has some decent amps too but I don't know much about them. I only saw them mentioned in a few other threads.

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Thanks 98Civic, not a lot of helpful people on this topic, you've been repped for your help.

Any thoughts on Skar Audio VXI65? Sadly I'm an all out subwoofer guy so this is all kind of new to me. Would really just like something with the best possible mid-bass and high power handling. I would love to cross them around 50-60hz.

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I was thinking this amp... Any thoughts? Hifonics ZRX1200.2 1200W RMS 2-Ch Class A/B Zeus Series Car Amp

If I understand correctly, (2) 4 ohm components on each chanel (2 front 2 rear) would be a 2 ohm load to each channel and I would get the full 1200w? correct me if I'm wrong.
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I was thinking this amp... Any thoughts? Hifonics ZRX1200.2 1200W RMS 2-Ch Class A/B Zeus Series Car Amp

I say give it a shot. It is a newer model than beckersons but if the internals are the same quality then I don't think you will be disappointed. Also, it doesn't look like it will do the power it is claiming according to the fuse rating. 80 amps X 14.4 volts = 1152 watts. So assuming the amp is 60% efficient you can expect around 350 rms per channel. Which is still a lot and is enough for what you want.

If I understand correctly, (2) 4 ohm components on each chanel (2 front 2 rear) would be a 2 ohm load to each channel and I would get the full 1200w? correct me if I'm wrong.
Yes this is right. You would get the 600 out of each channel. And I haven't heard anything on the skar components unfortunately.
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Thanks 98Civic, not a lot of helpful people on this topic, you've been repped for your help.

Any thoughts on Skar Audio VXI65? Sadly I'm an all out subwoofer guy so this is all kind of new to me. Would really just like something with the best possible mid-bass and high power handling. I would love to cross them around 50-60hz.

Skar Audio VXI65 6.5" Component Speaker System - SSA STORE
Thank you for the rep! I dropped the high pass on my b2s to 63hz today and played them full tilt for about an hour or so and they didn't struggle at all and sounded better than they do crossed at 80. But I was getting weird rattles and buzzing from my doors so I will have to wait until I get some deadening before I leave them that low. I seriously doubt you will have any issues running any of the comps you mentioned that low so I wouldn't worry about that.
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General advice, spend less on the rears and use the extra money for better comps up front.

My suggestion, re xxx comps up front and a decent coax in the back.

The comps will carry most of the load when it comes to output in the front seats, the coaxs will be able to supply plenty enough fill to round out the sound. You can run em on a 4 channel with the gain down a bit if needed.
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General advice, spend less on the rears and use the extra money for better comps up front.

My suggestion, re xxx comps up front and a decent coax in the back.

The comps will carry most of the load when it comes to output in the front seats, the coaxs will be able to supply plenty enough fill to round out the sound. You can run em on a 4 channel with the gain down a bit if needed.

Sadly $350 is going to be a bit out of the budget

I was going to go 4 channel but it looks like almost all (with exception of those re xxx) speakers are 4 ohm meaning I would need an amp with double the power potential to give me the 150w per channel that I want. Where If I go with a 2 channel I will have 2 ohm to each channel allowing for a more affordable amp.

Are there any other amps out there anyone can recommend. I cant seem to find any other 2 channel amps that will do a true 300-400 per channel under $200. The AQ 200.2 (here) seems to be a fair option being onsale.
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I would go with the aq over the hifonics. The build quality is better and the aq has a bandpass filter which will allow you to go active if you ever choose to do so. The aq probably has more clean power as well.
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Ok, I gave my friend all the options. Now lets see what he comes back with. I'm kind of hoping the mezzo's I would love to install those.
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My suggestion, re xxx comps up front and a decent coax in the back.

The comps will carry most of the load when it comes to output in the front seats, the coaxs will be able to supply plenty enough fill to round out the sound. You can run em on a 4 channel with the gain down a bit if needed.
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Sadly $350 is going to be a bit out of the budget

I would seriously reconsider going over budget. The XXX's have PHENOMENAL midbass and good highs to boot. I have used them with great results.
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350 for them and 100 for a set of coax is not that far out of budget. If you want a setup that will extend that low, those are one of the best options out there.

Side note, I found them for 250 ish on amazon, I'm sure they can be had for a better price than 350.

Edit. Sonic has em for 220. No brainer at that price.
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