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So, in about 2 months I will have 2 OA 18s in a 12 cubic foot ported box, running on 2Krms. I want midbass that will just fucqin crank... What do...

My doors can fit 5x7/6x8 speakers. I know I'm not getting anywhere with that. I'm willing to make cuts to fit bigger drivers.

I'm willing to spend about 300$ on both doors for speakers (2 mids 2 tweets). And after that I will put them on an amp and then deaden my doors. I'm looking for suggestions on what I should do... I want it loud and clear, and I want (idk if this is possible) my mid bass to really be noticeable alongside my subs. So what do I do? Do I need to use 8 inch mid drivers? I'm not looking to put dedicated midBASS drivers, I'm only wanting to have midRANGE drivers.

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Any 8" "pro" type midrange with a high sensitivity, dead door and proper tuning should net good results.. I use a Fosgate "pro" 6.5 driver and am pretty happy with it. A lot of people say the pro drivers sound like poop, but I think mine sounds fantastic and gets loud...
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Any 8" "pro" type midrange with a high sensitivity, dead door and proper tuning should net good results.. I use a Fosgate "pro" 6.5 driver and am pretty happy with it. A lot of people say the pro drivers sound like poop, but I think mine sounds fantastic and gets loud...
hmm looks like a good driver. I think I'm gonna go with a 6.5 at first and then if I need more go from there to an 8. I can put a 6.5 in there with an adapter. Do you know any tweeters that are nice?
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Look into the silver flutes. Deadener is your best friend when your trying to get solid mid bass
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I second the Flutes... If you were going dedicated midbass I would say the Exodus Anarchy mids as given the right power/crossover and proper deadened door they will destroy the low end... I run them 2-way and do love them in the 2-way config... But they can move quite the bit and that can mess with the higher freq
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go with the 8's and dont look back i personally like my crescendos as long as you tune them right they sound pretty dang good and loud.
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I also vote for the silver flutes. I just got a set to replace my pwx's and I am liking them better (I guess I'm more of a midbass guy than I thought). My pwx's didn't like to be crossed low at all when given any decent amount of power. Plan on keeping the pwx's crossed at around 80-125hz if you are going to feed them rated Power or more. The silver flutes will not get as loud as the pwx's will but imo they sound a lot better and will have much stronger midbass (at least they do in my application). Either way you go they should have no issues keeping up with your OA's

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I also vote for the silver flutes. I just got a set to replace my pwx's and I am liking them better (I guess I'm more of a midbass guy than I thought). My pwx's didn't like to be crossed low at all when given any decent amount of power. Plan on keeping the pwx's crossed at around 80-125hz if you are going to feed them rated Power or more. The silver flutes will not get as loud as the pwx's will but imo they sound a lot better and will have much stronger midbass (at least they do in my application). Either way you go they should have no issues keeping up with your OA's

And as 49konvict said….deadener is your friend!
Yeah I gotta get me some damplifer pro. It's expensive though. Will have to wait until after I get my substage. Ill put the damplifer on before I buy my comps just to hear the difference in my current speakers.

Do any of you have a tweeter to recommend? My truck didn't come with components so I gotta install one or else no highs
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Yeah I gotta get me some damplifer pro. It's expensive though. Will have to wait until after I get my substage. Ill put the damplifer on before I buy my comps just to hear the difference in my current speakers.

Do any of you have a tweeter to recommend? My truck didn't come with components so I gotta install one or else no highs
I like my nendo rts-1 tweeters I got. Had good results off axis as well. Overall great tweeter. I run ID xs28 tweeters in my car and they have been wonderful. So there are two of my recommendations.
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I like my nendo rts-1 tweeters I got. Had good results off axis as well. Overall great tweeter. I run ID xs28 tweeters in my car and they have been wonderful. So there are two of my recommendations.
Is there a big difference between putting your tweeters on axis and off axis?
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Yes. Off axis will lower the high end response. But it is very install dependent. The best way to figure out what you like is to run the wires and just tape them in different places to see what you like best.
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Yes. Off axis will lower the high end response. But it is very install dependent. The best way to figure out what you like is to run the wires and just tape them in different places to see what you like best.
To my understanding, off axis makes the tweeters less harsh? I'm gonna do what you said and experiment. Thanks.
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Yes it does make them less "harsh". But that harshness isn't always the tweeters. What's harshest to me is around 3k hz. Its the most sensitive range in human hearing for most people. Being off axis won't fix the 3k. Off axis will roll of the high end but to kill that 3k hiss you have to eq it out or cross over higher.
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