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Damn it Rich, I'm not a child, bro.

They make a Liquid Nails FOR wood..

I think I just may have to do a 'glue test'.. SMH.
as you said, "liquid nails for wood". mdf isnt wood.
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Damn it Rich, I'm not a child, bro.

They make a Liquid Nails FOR wood..

I think I just may have to do a 'glue test'.. SMH.
OK, but it has already been done, I've done the test personally.

How many boxes have you built? How many collectively do you think Ben and I have built? We don't tell people things just to be asses, it's because we've made those mistakes and learned.
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as you said, "liquid nails for wood". mdf isnt wood.
Hmm.. we use it religiously @ SoundCheck & we've never had problems w/it..
I use it on every box I use.. & it seals perfectly. Plus you can cake it into corners.

I may just end up doing a test..

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OK, but it has already been done, I've done the test personally.

How many boxes have you built? How many collectively do you think Ben and I have built? We don't tell people things just to be asses, it's because we've made those mistakes and learned.
But I've never had a problem w/it.

Nor has 2000LaDe when he has all 4 of his 18's..

I dunno.. I guess if I'm wrong, I'll eventually learn.
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They are 90 degree corner clamps, I picked mine up at harbor freight for like $3 a piece, so I bought about 10 of them, just in case I'm working on multiple things at one time. And Jacob, you know you're always welcome to come down here, and we'll whip you up something nice.
I may have to come by and get carpet lessons on my ghetto box Maybe your wife can work some magic on it so it looks passable!

Circular saw + Me = bad cuts...
Lack of 90 degree clamps + Me = bad glue joints...

I think it'll do okay with some sanding and carpet. I'm putting two of the little SD-1 10" subs in there (ported), based on the ones I've heard so far that'll cut it for my daily SQ system.
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OK, but it has already been done, I've done the test personally.

How many boxes have you built? How many collectively do you think Ben and I have built? We don't tell people things just to be asses, it's because we've made those mistakes and learned.
i do woodworking for a living, cabinetry to be exact. if liquid nails was better we would use it, but no we use wood glue, tightbond to be exact, which is also the most popular wood adhesive in the world.
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I may have to come by and get carpet lessons on my ghetto box Maybe your wife can work some magic on it so it looks passable!

Circular saw + Me = bad cuts...
Lack of 90 degree clamps + Me = bad glue joints...

I think it'll do okay with some sanding and carpet. I'm putting two of the little SD-1 10" subs in there (ported), based on the ones I've heard so far that'll cut it for my daily SQ system.

if you come over with some box that doesn't pass the test, she'll make me Build you a new one and then she'll carpet it. We can't have the owner of Sundown audio running around with something that just doesn't look good. Come on down tomorrow, and we'll hook you up real quick.
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if you come over with some box that doesn't pass the test, she'll make me build you a new one and then she'll carpet it. We can't have the owner of Sundown audio running around with something that just doesn't look good. Come on down tomorrow, and we'll hook you up real quick.
If I end up not going to the nSPL show I think I'll do that
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Alrighty, how about some more pics:

countersunk the screws for the rear piece we put on:



then we screw them in tight.



Remember using too many screws is as bad or worse than not using any at all. Every place you put a screw is a potential weak point in the wood if it's not perfectly centered and pilot hole drilled.

Now we've wiped the excess glue off, and one side is done.



Now, a quick note for people who use brads, like myself. If you use brads entirely with no screws, you must leave the clamps on for a couple hours to allow the glue to setup enough to work with.

the inside seam, notice the yellow color Ben mentioned earlier?



Now we get setup for the next side that's going on:



Then I tack it in place with brads, and then apply the clamps:


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Then we countersink, pilot hole, and screw it again:




Now, we use the same steps on the baffle:



Once the baffle is locked in place, the fun begins........



These are the tools we are going to need now:



Now we're going to draw out inside the box where we want out port walls based on our buildsheet or schematic.




Not just the inside, but we're going to do the outside as well:



Then we lay in our first port piece. This box is a little more complicated than most people would build, but the steps are the same no matter what you're building.



Then we use our guidelines to screw the port piece in place:



and we end up with this:



Put the 45's in. I don't use screws for this part, just brads, since it's not structural, and it's very difficult to get them screwed in this position:



Now for the fun part, the flared port wall. Let's lay down plenty of glue to get started:



next we tack it to the baffle to hold it in place, so we can line everything up:



then we flip it up to position the back of the port into place. There's some tricks I've learned while building these, but I'll keep those to myself, some things you just have to figure out......lol



then we screw it down:

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nice work!!!!!!! A+!!!! someone sticky this ish' now!!!!
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Now, what about all that wood we cut out to make that curve? Well it's time to give it some more strength. Remember, I said this is going to be subjected to a lot of power, with some pretty good subs in it, so it needs to be pretty rigid.

First thing we'll do is flip it over where the flare is facing down:



Here's what we're gonna need next:



We cut the matt to be a bit larger than the area we need to cover:



The next steps I couldn't film because I had resin all over my hands, but you get the idea:



And that's where we sit for the night. We'll let the glass cure really well overnight, and come back and pick up on it tomorrow.
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Thanks man, it's nice when another box builder says good things about your work.
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http://www.audiojunkies.com/blog/346

there's some good info there.
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nice build as always. excellent enclosure guide!


i know the noobs will have a hard time with it, but it seems like this thread is geared more toward people who can already build enclosures, but just want to improve on their technique.
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pretty much, but the steps and basics are the same, I just chose a fairly complicated box to do this tutorial on, but that's all it seems like I've been building lately.
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not sure if you mentioned it but what subs will be going in this? and ither way good work rich.. as always
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nope, I didn't mention it. The subs will be DD 9512G's
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Great work. Got to make a trip to get some 90 deg. clamps and a jasper jig. Where is the best place to get a jasper jig? After seeing this build I want to up my game. Sell me a plan for a box.
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parts express is where I got my jasper jig from. I very rarely do box plans anymore, because of the time involved, I only have time to do the ones for the boxes I'm paid to build.
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Thats cool I have bassbox 6 pro and when I build for spl I usually just start with the recommended and tune using my term lab. I just thought a box like yours would be cool for daily.
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If you have a plan for RE SX 12's 1 - 5 or a 15" APX laying around let me know.
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They make a Liquid Nails FOR wood..

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http://www.audiojunkies.com/blog/346
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i think i saw that in post 36 or so
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liquid nails wasnt evenm in the test? and the gorilla glue did the worse right? i cant click the link on the audiojunkies page becasue work.
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