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I'm looking at this unit and seriously considering it for the next build. Things i see that sat it apart that i like alot.

8v Preout (I dont wanna run my Matrix if i really dont have to)
Magicgate (the possibility to play music off memory cas sounds nice but i dont know if it works like that)
Styling (it seems to be a very nice unit with everything in places that i can get to easy while driving)

Does anyone own any? Not only the model iwant but any of them. If so, are there any negatives to Eclipse units (besides price, I dont care about the price). Also does the magic gate work as i presumed above? Also how is Eclipse with Ipod Connectivity?

I am mainly looking into this unit as a headunit to have nice SQ out of, i'll be runing either Rainbow Germaniums all around or Focal K3P all around with 2 RE MX 12s for a substage

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I own the cd5000

pros:

extremely poerful and clean preouts (the non faders distort just slightly after volume 68 when non fader is set to 0 so use volume 68 or less as your gain settings)

very nice screen and the menus are very easy to navigate (first unit ive owned that I can set the clock in 30 seconds LOL!)

mp3 sound good on it and they are fast reading (only takes a while to initally read the disk then its fast)

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cons:

button for changing tracks is a little too sensative

screen doesnt fold back up after you load a disk (you have to press the eject button again)

no x-over (its only for the non-fader)



things I havent tried... :

i-pod (i dont own one)

magic gate (again I dont own one)



so what do I think of the unit.... its one of the best ive owned. Ive had some sound a little warmer then the eclipse but none of them had an overall nice and easy to use setup. (alpine 9855 sounded better for midrange but the menus too FOREVER to go thru, the para. eq was purely annoying to use and the subwoofer preouts were a joke... low Power and noisey... BUT the internal amp on it was the best ive ever heard simply powerful and CLEAN! I just needed one that freakin worked for eveything, its annoying to have a headunit excel in one area and completely suck in another.) for now im sticking with eclipse... im very satisfied with the cd5000
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Does the CD5000 still have the crappy remote that takes 5 days to turn a song up or down?
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i have an eclipse and when i turn it up around 70 is starts to like cancel the sub out im not sure if thats something that the eclispe does just to protect your stuff
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definately not, the sweet spot in my Car is at volume 74, so you have something else going on.
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I like eclipse decks, but I find that they lack alot of features. I have an older CD5000 and it sounds great, but there are things missing from it that I'd like to have.
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I like eclipse decks, but I find that they lack alot of features. I have an older CD5000 and it sounds great, but there are things missing from it that I'd like to have.
like ? please elaborate a bit
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Eclipse decks are top's man you cant get better than them peroid for SQ.
(with exclusion of alpines F1's and Clarions Super high End stuff)

You can play and Record on to the Magic gate card, It does have an EQ
Its part of your setup in Menu ( it can be turned off) it has a 7 Band Perametric,
but its too difficult for most users, Its in the Advanced mode off and it wont
show up. Ipod conductivity is Easy with a adaptor, Charges and displays just like your ipod, (iPC-106), eclipse also has a eServe so you can customize your deck and dl maps for the gps, Add the gps ant and you get your directions
turn by turn.

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good god above 68?? i have my system set to be loud as **** at 60 lol. i love mine. the cross over i believe is for front, rear and preout, not just subwoofer.
but i basically have the same pro's and cons as ice wall. i use the remote to change tracks and the rotary knob to change the volume lol. but the only thing i would change my deck for would be the cd7000. i really enjoy mine.
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Yea ive herd that from a few customers, That the rotary knob is too sensitive.
But Not a bad con if thats all you have to say
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like ? please elaborate a bit
There is no option to turn the sub off. The crossover in mine is not adjustable except you can turn it on and off. The dekc just lakcs alto of features that allow you to adjust your systems sound to your preference. All the settings are already set, and all I can do is turn them on and off. There are a few EQ settings, but I don't use those either.

Basically all my deck does is bass, treble, mids, balance and fade, a non-fader that I don't even use, loud, and a source volume control. This could be just the older models, because I don't pay alot of attention to Eclipse nowadays.
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well im talking about the brand new units, i'll be buying locally from a dealer. I was thinking about the 7000 initially but i dont really see anything it offers that i like over the 5000. I like the look of the 5k, 8v preouts FTW. The only other unit that interest me in thier lineup is the AVN7000. I'm not sure on anything really to do with it either though
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Yours is old then, or low line. My 8445 rocks. It has adjustable crossover point, adjustable to 24db slope, magicgate, eiserve navigation, 7 band parametric, time alignment and anything else you could ever want in a good headunit. I can't even list off all the features.

The CD5000 looks to be the same as last year's 8445.
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Eclipse decks are top's man you cant get better than them peroid for SQ.
(with exclusion of alpines F1's and Clarions Super high End stuff)

You can play and Record on to the Magic gate card, It does have an EQ
Its part of your setup in Menu ( it can be turned off) it has a 7 Band Perametric,
but its too difficult for most users, Its in the Advanced mode off and it wont
show up. Ipod conductivity is Easy with a adaptor, Charges and displays just like your ipod, (iPC-106), eclipse also has a eServe so you can customize your deck and dl maps for the gps, Add the gps ant and you get your directions
turn by turn.

Never Buy from anyone but A DEALER! They are very strict on there Dealer Control, If its on the INTERNET, ITS A B-STOCK OR USED and they will
not cover it for any reason!
do you know if its one of those units that the magic gate only acceps memory stick and not the memory stick pro? Very helpful information so far, what in your opinion is worth going up form the 5k to the 7k series?
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yes as I said it distorts after 68 with non-fader set to zero. tested out on my back from work just now and it worked great at volume 68 (way less heat at the subwoofer)

btw the parametric eq is great... I use it to dip my reponse when my windows are closed, otherwise my tweeters can be a little aggressive.

i wasnt interested in the cd7000 as I hate flashy graphic displays and a HUGE turnoff was the 5 volt preout? I thought this was a step up? HA!

I think the only things missing from the cd5000 is a better remote (it sucks) and the xover points for front and rear so I can use the deck as the active xover. whats the point of moving to a higher priced deck to get the extra features and have just 5 volt preout? sure eclipse needs to make money on an already high priced deck but dont dull one area to make another better... classic car audio magic marketing



yes stratus... the cd5000 is almost identical to last years 8445 but with the bugs removed LOL... last years 8445 was plagued with problems (or so it seems for many people including me)
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i have the cd7000 and i have no complaints about eclipse at all. Im sure the cd5000 is a very good unit.
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There is no option to turn the sub off. The crossover in mine is not adjustable except you can turn it on and off. The dekc just lakcs alto of features that allow you to adjust your systems sound to your preference. All the settings are already set, and all I can do is turn them on and off. There are a few EQ settings, but I don't use those either.

Basically all my deck does is bass, treble, mids, balance and fade, a non-fader that I don't even use, loud, and a source volume control. This could be just the older models, because I don't pay alot of attention to Eclipse nowadays.
do you have the owners manual, seriously your deck has all those features, unless you don't have the cd5000. if you only have bass and trebble you need to set it to the advanced mode to get to those setting, but you have a 7 band eq. if you need to i can tell you how to do this. and your cross over will cross the front and rear channel. your settings may not be in a way that will allow you to do this.


the only complaints i have is A) you can't turn the sub off, and B) there isn't a pause on mine, but there maybe one on the cd5000.

and what is up with the 5000 having 8 volt preouts and the 7000 having 5 volts.
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do you have the owners manual, seriously your deck has all those features, unless you don't have the cd5000. if you only have bass and trebble you need to set it to the advanced mode to get to those setting, but you have a 7 band eq. if you need to i can tell you how to do this. and your cross over will cross the front and rear channel. your settings may not be in a way that will allow you to do this.


the only complaints i have is A) you can't turn the sub off, and B) there isn't a pause on mine, but there maybe one on the cd5000.

and what is up with the 5000 having 8 volt preouts and the 7000 having 5 volts.
Yes I have the owners manual, and yes I have spent alot of time tweaking what I can. I gave you my opinion from what I see on the deck, and I'm not lieing about it. It is an older model (3 years i think), and I think this has something to do with it.

I'm thinking of picking up a newer Eclipse for my next deck since the have good SQ, and have added more features since I bought mine.
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i work for CCity and sell them bitches like hotcakes. and i use them a lot on the boards and the one in the shop is a 5ooo so im using it all day. everyday. and the track control sucks dick. it took me about 3 months to learn how to set the effin EQ on it. 8v pre out makes a drastic difference mainly for highs amps.

i would suggest it for an SQ setup. but for usability. i would say the 7ooo just becuase i thinks its easier to use. but thsta just me i get 70% off retail so the price dont change much for me lol.

i think i can get the 7ooo for 250. heh

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i work for CCity and sell them bitches like hotcakes. and i use them a lot on the boards and the one in the shop is a 5ooo so im using it all day. everyday. and the track control sucks dick. it took me about 3 months to learn how to set the effin EQ on it. 8v pre out makes a drastic difference mainly for highs amps.

i would suggest it for an SQ setup. but for usability. i would say the 7ooo just becuase i thinks its easier to use. but thsta just me i get 70% off retail so the price dont change much for me lol.

i think i can get the 7ooo for 250. heh

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circuit city has always been like that. heck I was getting mtx 81000d's straight from mtx for cost or LESS!

I dont see how you couldnt figure out the eq... its the easiest para ive ever used. I mean you hit sound then peq then hit the track button down to go to each band and track select for each freq. then use the fastforward and rewind to raise or lower in db and hit the number 6 to change Q. i dont think a para could get any easier but thats just my opinion.

try an alpine 9855's para. it took my hours of sitting there WITH the manual and I got sooo frustrated that I switched it to the graphic eq.



the only thing that kinda bugs me is why has eclipse NEVER included a pause function. I remember when I wanted an eclipse years ago and the highest model had the pause? weird! (i think iot was a 8445 but it was a while ago when I didnt have the money or time for audio so I dont remember)

yes like I said previously the track selector is WAY to sensitive but not enough to make me dislike my cd5000 (it makes it up in performance)
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The Eclipse's PEQ is so easy to use once you get the hang of it. I'd agree Alpine's is a PITA.

My complaints about the Eclipse 8445:

no 3 way crossover (the 8455 had it, I should have bought that)
no pause button
the worst remote I've even seen
intermittant turn off thump. (seems to be one of those "bugs" mentioned earlier. when I called Fujitsu-ten, they knew exactly what I was talking about and gave me a return authorization immediately)

Those aren't enough to make me buy anything else though, it's a great unit for SQ as long as you don't want to go active crossover using the headunit.
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my $.02

I dont like eclipse because of their extremly long load times and in the south depending on the humidity and weather ive seen several of there decks refuse to play a CD. when i brought mine into the shopthey said "oh thats normal" now i own use and love a sony specialty series head unit
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Yes I have the owners manual, and yes I have spent alot of time tweaking what I can. I gave you my opinion from what I see on the deck, and I'm not lieing about it. It is an older model (3 years i think), and I think this has something to do with it.

I'm thinking of picking up a newer Eclipse for my next deck since the have good SQ, and have added more features since I bought mine.
i'm not bashing your opinion bro, i'm more of trying to help you understand you h/u lol. do you have the cd5000 or the cd8445?? i didn't think they made the cd5000 three years ago, i'm preatty sure last year it was the cd8445. and i don't know what the previous years were.
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they didnt make the cd5000 3 years ago.

top models were:

3 years ago 8443
2 ............... 8454
1 ............... 8455
now .......... 7000

previos years were all 5 or 8 series and the model # coresponds with the preout voltage.

this year is the first year ive seen since 3 years ago that the model number are different
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The SQ i get from my cd8445 is great. There aren't long load times at all so I'm not sure what your talking about. The remote is slow, but that's about all I can say against the thing. The 8v pre-outs are real nice along with the control I have shaping my sound. The eclipse units are complicated, I had to actually refer to my manual to operate the thing to it's full potential. I would say def. stay with the higher pre-out voltage, def. worth it.
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