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Cowon A5 Plenue Smart PMP Full HD Amoled 1080p WiFi 64GB White

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Cowon A5 32GB Portable Media Player: Amazon.co.uk: Electronics
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what will shipping be like? Can i pay usd ?
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one sec, il check'

It lets me get to the check out, but i havent put a CC in for amazon , so i cant go that far lol, but yeah, i cant see why you couldnt
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only 269 dollars sweet. Thanks Dumpy
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but 64 is 308.. hmm gonna have to spring for more prollly.

EDIT: not in stock fml.

EDIT EDIT: nvm it is
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hmm. Not sure if worth getting. Back button problem seems to be a deal breaker till they get that fixed.
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If I was buying a android tablet, I'd get a Nexus 7. It might not be 1080P, but it kills that cowon tablet in every other aspect. You can get the 16 gig for $250 straight from Google. They come with a $25 gift card for the play store (app market) too. Why get something with 2.3 on it when they just released 4.1 a couple weeks ago...



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If I was buying a android tablet, I'd get a Nexus 7. It might not be 1080P, but it kills that cowon tablet in every other aspect. You can get the 32 gig for $250 straight from Google. They come with a $25 gift card for the play store (app market) too. Why get something with 2.3 on it when they just released 4.1 a couple weeks ago...
I wouldn't say kill it in every other way. Cowon is known for their amazing codec support. I have the v5 and it plays anything from avi to mp4 to mkv. The a5 is the same way and can output to any display to 1080p which the nexus cannot do which is a must for me. I really don't even watch stuff on the main screen. They both have wireless N and bluetooth. And the nexus doesn't have anything even close to the audio processing on the cowon. I enjoy my flacs . Meh I don't really care it is 2.3.

Only downside in my book is the back button problem.

And the 64 gig is 300 bucks right now. I have heard the resistive screen is annoying but it is most likely very similar to the v5 which I don't mind.

In my book the cowon > Nexus.

EDIT: and it isn't a tablet lol. It is a PMP.
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I wouldn't say kill it in every other way. Cowon is known for their amazing codec support. I have the v5 and it plays anything from avi to mp4 to mkv. The a5 is the same way and can output to any display to 1080p which the nexus cannot do which is a must for me. I really don't even watch stuff on the main screen. They both have wireless N and bluetooth. And the nexus doesn't have anything even close to the audio processing on the cowon. I enjoy my flacs . Meh I don't really care it is 2.3.

Only downside in my book is the back button problem.

And the 64 gig is 300 bucks right now. I have heard the resistive screen is annoying but it is most likely very similar to the v5 which I don't mind.

In my book the cowon > Nexus.

EDIT: and it isn't a tablet lol. It is a PMP.
It runs android, has a touch screen...it's a tablet.

I play flacs on my galaxy nexus just fine, android's had native support for flacs forever. PS the nexus 7 does 1080P out. So if you're implying you don't use the pmp's screen (what main screen are you talking about?) then it's a moot point.

What kind of audio processing do you mean? The EQ on poweramp is pretty good, granted it's only got a 10 band EQ. Only twice as many bands as the cowon . If you're talking about crossfade etc it does that with ease. With the tegra 3 quad core in there it has enough processing Power to do pretty much any DSP you can think of...

Anyways to each their own.

Have you actually seriously considered the nexus 7?

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It runs android, has a touch screen...it's a tablet.

I play flacs on my galaxy nexus just fine, android's had native support for flacs forever. PS the nexus 7 does 1080P out. So if you're implying you don't use the pmp's screen (what main screen are you talking about?) then it's a moot point.

What kind of audio processing do you mean? The EQ on poweramp is pretty good, granted it's only got a 10 band EQ. Only twice as many bands as the cowon . If you're talking about crossfade etc it does that with ease. With the tegra 3 quad core in there it has enough processing power to do pretty much any DSP you can think of...

Anyways to each their own.

Have you actually seriously considered the nexus 7?
YES!!! its a tablet lol i tried telling him that. but i completly agree i tried telling him this that galaxy note and other tablets have better specs for a good price. and the codec support is just a app. there are plenty of apps on the store with codec support for all.
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I play flacs on my galaxy nexus just fine, android's had native support for flacs forever. PS the nexus 7 does 1080P out. So if you're implying you don't use the pmp's screen (what main screen are you talking about?) then it's a moot point.

What kind of audio processing do you mean? The EQ on poweramp is pretty good, granted it's only got a 10 band EQ. Only twice as many bands as the cowon . If you're talking about crossfade etc it does that with ease. With the tegra 3 quad core in there it has enough processing power to do pretty much any DSP you can think of...

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YES!!! its a tablet lol i tried telling him that. but i completly agree i tried telling him this that galaxy note and other tablets have better specs for a good price. and the codec support is just a app. there are plenty of apps on the store with codec support for all.
Guys... The company that makes it calls it a PMP.. therefore it is a pmp not a tablet. Besides it is on the small side anyways of being a tablet. But that really isn't important anyways.

Correct me if I am wrong but the nexus 7 has no hdmi out and way to output highdef videos to an external device such as a tv or projector. Which is the main reason I want to buy the A5 and why I bought the V5 years back.

Playing codecs is also hardware dependant. If it doesn't have specs up to par it cannot playback high definition audio such as flac with no loss. Which I have heard most android devices have a short coming with this.

I am referring to jet effect 3.0 fallen which others have said beats out any other audio processing software available.
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nexus 7 can't even play mkv according to google.
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if hardware is what gave support for audio then we would need new hardware everytime we get a new format for are computers. its all program dependant.

andless - Android audio player for lossless (FLAC/APE/MPC/WV) and other files - Google Project Hosting bam that plays lossless

also poweramp plays mp3, mp4/m4a, alac, ogg, wma, flac, wav, ape, wv, and tta; also supports .cue files.

like i said its program dependant not hardware. again its just an app they got

edit: quickpic plays mkv so im sure the 7 plays it as quickpic doesnt play anything special im sure quickpic is native supported codecs, im not sure if its true native as i dont have any native media player i use quickpic for all my stuff.
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if hardware is what gave support for audio then we would need new hardware everytime we get a new format for are computers. its all program dependant.

andless - Android audio player for lossless (FLAC/APE/MPC/WV) and other files - Google Project Hosting bam that plays lossless

also poweramp plays mp3, mp4/m4a, alac, ogg, wma, flac, wav, ape, wv, and tta; also supports .cue files.

like i said its program dependant not hardware. again its just an app they got

edit: quickpic plays mkv so im sure the 7 plays it as quickpic doesnt play anything special im sure quickpic is native supported codecs, im not sure if its true native as i dont have any native media player i use quickpic for all my stuff.
Well I haven't been able to find anyway to play mkv on a nexus 7 which would be a problem for me.

And I said if the hardware isn't up to par you can't stream music that is potentially 800 kbps which some of my songs are. It will "play" flac but it will cut down on the bitrate so it can actually play it on some devices.

EDIT: if you can find a way to on a nexus 7 please link me to it
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and it is expandable with a micro sd which is a plus. which the nexus 7 doesn't so I can have up to 96 gigs pretty easily.
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I haven't got my nexus 7 yet, by the video player I use on my phone (I have Jelly Bean on it) can play .mkv. Check out MoboPlayer. It should work on the nexus 7.

removable storage is a good point. But at the same time it's kinda antiquated. Just stream over wifi.

Oh and I effed up, the base nexus 7 is 8gig, and the one above it ($250) is 16 gig.
So anywho if storing a lot of media locally is important, maybe the a5 is a better choice. Especially if you don't care about bleeding edge tech as much as having a larger scree+more storage.

EDIT: The nexus 7, like my phone and a lot of android devices in the past year does HDMI out over the USB port. You need a $10 cable off ebay (or a more expensive one from the manufacturer).
It does 7.1 audio over the cable too
The codecs can be decoded in software, hardware decoding is good for devices lacking processing power. With a tegra 3 though, there's definitely no lack of power.

I have no idea what jet effect is, so I can't comment on that.

EDIT AGAIN:

Holy crap don't listen to me at all. The article on Engadget I read a while back said that the nexus 7 would work with MHL (HDMI over USB). But now that I'm looking into it further, it looks like that's not the case. So yeah, I'm wrong. And thus the 7 really doesn't suit your needs. Sorry man.



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lol long post. And yeah that's what I thought. So I was confused when you said it could display out like that.

And a lot of the time when I use my cowon is out in the shop where I don't have wifi and a tv so I just load up a couple seasons of a tv show or several movies so I can have some entertainment. I wonder if they have gotten the back button problem fixed
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hmmm now I am looking at the z2... battery life isn't too great but seems pretty sweet.

Fallen read the audio portion of this review for more insight into cowon's top of the line sound processing (jet effect etc...)

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Whole review is a bit long but definitely worth reading IMO.
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hardware is still much to weak imo... but to each there own
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thats outrageous that the nexus 7 has no way to output hdmi..

guess they had to cut some corners to keep people buying more expensive tablets.
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thats outrageous that the nexus 7 has no way to output hdmi..

guess they had to cut some corners to keep people buying more expensive tablets.
yeah it does suck they cut that. Whole reason I use these things

If it had 1080p out I would jump on that in a heartbeat.
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