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02-23-2007 12:28 PM
pornstar i agree with you.. with most everything you said.

the problem is that you can NOT have a public forum, and expect people to remain, if it becomes a communist society.
02-23-2007 10:27 AM
COLOSSUS
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Originally Posted by pornstar View Post
this is a FORUM.

a place for people to discuss things.

you are trying to micromanage the forum, and that aint the way to do things on a place that is supposed to be for open discussions.

so what if a question has been answered. does that mean more people cant answer it? or that people cant continue to discuss the topic?

now, i know, someone is going to say something like "the longer a thread is open, the more chance it has of going off topic" again.. i say.. so what? who cares? is it killing anyone?

assign someone to go through threads. answer them, and then close them? wow.. now i've seen it all.

i dont know a single person on this or any other forum, that has the knowledge to go through and answer every single thread that ges created.

you sound like hitler to me.

edit: this post was for collosus not shon. i know shon doesnt try to micromanage.
hmmm... Was just a thought, no need to stab you in the nuts or anything.

And alot of people are giving good reasons why this idea is bad including shon. I thought at first maybe it would help clear up the clutter of needless posts. Discussion is one thing, but discussion does not include "ftw" "ftl" "stfu u stupid n00b".. things like that are useless clutter. That was what I was trying to help get rid of Pornstar. I apologize if my helpfulness offends you and give you the idea that I am muscling in on your territory but I have respect for you and your knowledge of car audio. I didn't say that they had to answer the question themselves, merely that they help answer it by even posting a link to another thread that DID answer the question.

The person would not need to close the thread but at least watch it for pointless remarks afterward such as most admins already do for this site. Like I stated already, discussion is one thing and post hording is another.
02-23-2007 10:07 AM
plushDJ This could also pose a problem that IF it did happen and someone answered a question wrong OR someone had a better answer, it wouldn't be postable due to the lock. I can totally see the points made on both sides with this one.
02-23-2007 10:05 AM
Kay Ot Tek
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as i have mentioned a couple times, i have decided to leave old threads open for a reason. if a person does a search and comes across an old thread but needs an addition explantion on the topic, they have the choice to ask their question in the same thread rather than creating an entirely new thread explaining that they need additional help based on an old thread. the idea behind is this to have people search and avoid creating multiple new threads of the same topic.

in my opinion, i don't understand why people get frustrated when they see an old thread receive a reply. is it that hard to ignore the post date and let a person make a response to an old thread?
Its not a big deal when an old thread is brought up if it's a legitimate reason. If there is a thread that's 5 months old and someone is saying, "So when you gonna finish" or "so how's it sound", Im gonna say something. Especially if the thread starter doesn't even come on this site anymore. I don't have a problem with questions on the install that other people may be able to answer for them and I sure as hell don't have a problem with someone bumping an old thread by giving praise to the original thread starter. There was someone who was rude a couple weeks ago to someone who bumped a thread because they wanted to give props to who started the thread. I thought that was BS, but I do get tired of seeing dumb comments in very old threads.
02-23-2007 10:04 AM
pornstar this is a FORUM.

a place for people to discuss things.

you are trying to micromanage the forum, and that aint the way to do things on a place that is supposed to be for open discussions.

so what if a question has been answered. does that mean more people cant answer it? or that people cant continue to discuss the topic?

now, i know, someone is going to say something like "the longer a thread is open, the more chance it has of going off topic" again.. i say.. so what? who cares? is it killing anyone?

assign someone to go through threads. answer them, and then close them? wow.. now i've seen it all.

i dont know a single person on this or any other forum, that has the knowledge to go through and answer every single thread that ges created.

you sound like hitler to me.

edit: this post was for collosus not shon. i know shon doesnt try to micromanage.
02-23-2007 10:02 AM
ROE
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Originally Posted by COLOSSUS View Post
Thank you Shon, I understand your reason. I still think though, that threads not directly contributing to a specific reason should be locked though to help newer people find what they need a little easier.
even if i close a thread, it will still be able to produce results when searched. the only way to isolate a thread is to delete it.

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As to older members flaming old thread revivers, I think it is toward post count possibly.
i will agree to this as some people may find it a reason to make a post. i beleive this problem is more of "trend". when someone does it others will follow. to help stop this, i will tell the moderation team to look out for these type of posts.

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May I suggest assigning someone to go through and help answer questions on new threads following with a close to that answered thread, but leaving open if the answer cannot be found immediately?
this is an interesting idea, however it would require a lot of work and i will most likely receive more complaints as i will have to explain the reason for the lock. the moderation team is already questioned for locking/deleting threads we fill are more none constructive than constructive. also, this will prevent the first reason i stated in this post, to allow people to follow up on threads they find.
02-23-2007 09:56 AM
ROE
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Originally Posted by pornstar View Post
exactly.

big deal if its an old thread or a new thread.

yet, when someone asks a question that was asked in the past some of the hotheads always complain and say to use search.

but yet, when someone uses search and revives an old thread, they get flamed for that too.

flamers will flame for any reason they choose.
you made a excellent explanation. as mentioned, a flamer will find any reason to flame.
02-23-2007 09:51 AM
COLOSSUS Thank you Shon, I understand your reason. I still think though, that threads not directly contributing to a specific reason should be locked though to help newer people find what they need a little easier.

As to older members flaming old thread revivers, I think it is toward post count possibly.. People spend alot of time paying attention to post count as a sign of knowledge on any forum even though it sometimes isn't the case. If not that reason, then people just don't understand a new person's accident by reopening an old thread or knowing about the search function when they repost an already answered problem.

May I suggest assigning someone to go through and help answer questions on new threads following with a close to that answered thread, but leaving open if the answer cannot be found immediately?
02-23-2007 09:49 AM
Corey Anderson
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Originally Posted by ROE View Post
as i have mentioned a couple times, i have decided to leave old threads open for a reason. if a person does a search and comes across an old thread but needs an addition explantion on the topic, they have the choice to ask their question in the same thread rather than creating an entirely new thread explaining that they need additional help based on an old thread. the idea behind is this to have people search and avoid creating multiple new threads of the same topic.

in my opinion, i don't understand why people get frustrated when they see an old thread receive a reply. is it that hard to ignore the post date and let a person make a response to an old thread?
i couldnt have put it better

btw ypgm, thanks csa
02-23-2007 09:48 AM
pornstar exactly.

big deal if its an old thread or a new thread.

yet, when someone asks a question that was asked in the past some of the hotheads always complain and say to use search.

but yet, when someone uses search and revives an old thread, they get flamed for that too.

flamers will flame for any reason they choose.
02-23-2007 09:48 AM
SoundwaveDave you should know why shon its cause thats all people have to do on here when there board.... they fight i for one didnt think of the flaming and it has honestly been pretty bad on here ever since i first got on here, but i think it has improved a bit in the past month... for one thing kay was nice to me for once... luv ya though kay... but flamming is bad on this site but he does make a good point in what he just said though
02-23-2007 09:44 AM
ROE as i have mentioned a couple times, i have decided to leave old threads open for a reason. if a person does a search and comes across an old thread but needs an addition explantion on the topic, they have the choice to ask their question in the same thread rather than creating an entirely new thread explaining that they need additional help based on an old thread. the idea behind is this to have people search and avoid creating multiple new threads of the same topic.

in my opinion, i don't understand why people get frustrated when they see an old thread receive a reply. is it that hard to ignore the post date and let a person make a response to an old thread?
02-23-2007 09:43 AM
plushDJ ^^like you said it would help flaming which a lot of people say is the problem with this site
02-23-2007 09:40 AM
COLOSSUS
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i think its way to much work for how little old threads are bumped
ya, but when they are what happens? They become new threads again and then the older members tend to flame for someone having brought up something they considered "finished" months before.

Still thats a good reason why its not a very good plan to go through the old threads and close them but it would be worth it in the long run to help with search latency and forum bandwidth.
02-23-2007 09:37 AM
Corey Anderson i think its way to much work for how little old threads are bumped
02-23-2007 09:34 AM
SoundwaveDave i think that all threads should be closed after like a week of no responses, only reason is cause they can always be remade later if they needed to be.... it shouldnt be a problem and its a good idea
02-23-2007 09:24 AM
COLOSSUS
Idea for thread revivers

I personally think reviving old threads is getting ****ty because people dont check the thread's date when they post advice on it. I propose that (a/the) mod(s) go from the beginning of all threads existing and lock them after the original question has been answered so they cannot be revived and that all posts not containing vital information older then 4 months be deleted to save on forum bandwidth as well during searches.

Just a thought I wanted to put out there.. Too much work? Make me a mod/admin and I will do it for you. I have experience with controlling forums and I wouldn't let the power go to my head. Also, this function has been implied on another forum that houses near 1million members- forum.elitepvpers.de -and seems to work fine there.

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