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04-16-2007 01:58 PM
Dylan Dude
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Originally Posted by momentarylapse7 View Post
Tried to PM you on Saturday, Dylan.. inbox = full, FYI.
Dude I'm sorry man. It's empty now. Thanks for telling me. lol
04-16-2007 01:14 PM
Dumple91 i can bang low notes i feel for you after only haveing stock fronts for 4 months fugg winter !!!
04-16-2007 01:11 PM
profundus-sanus
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Originally Posted by gurrre Type-R View Post
Where does you car peak?

If you but the same box i a big suv i bet it hit lows like crazy.



Sorry of topic :Can somone tell me what the rep is??
Is it good to have much or is 0 the best and how do you get it?
+ rep means you make mostly good posts. Positive and helpful.

- rep means you make mostly bad posts. Fighting and uncalled for.

Now it isn't neccisarilly accurate in my eyes as someone will always be biased. But its far better than it was when the regular members were doing it(the mods are the only ones now)
04-16-2007 01:08 PM
profundus-sanus
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Originally Posted by Mr. Crunch View Post
I'm having the same problem. I have high-end stuff. I have 4 Diamond D1 12"s, Ecslipe CD4000 radio, ........lanzar 1800 VIBE....I think my amp is my problem. It has a SSF, but it cant play low notes either. It in an Explorer also. I had a Crunch Ground Pounder setup before (2 GP 15"s, GP1600.1) , andd it kills these 4 12"s. I dont know the tuning of the box since a shop built it. You aint the only one who cant play Jeezy. I have no option of moving the subs around since I have a floorbox. Funny thing is, when I had an Earthqauke amp, it shook everything (steering wheel, seats) with the four 12"s?

it is possible that your guy's amps dont have a flat response, or maybe roll off early... you could hook the amp up to a multimeter and run a sweep from 20-60 and see how much the voltage changes.
04-16-2007 06:09 AM
Mr. Crunch I'm having the same problem. I have high-end stuff. I have 4 Diamond D1 12"s, Ecslipe CD4000 radio, ........lanzar 1800 VIBE....I think my amp is my problem. It has a SSF, but it cant play low notes either. It in an Explorer also. I had a Crunch Ground Pounder setup before (2 GP 15"s, GP1600.1) , andd it kills these 4 12"s. I dont know the tuning of the box since a shop built it. You aint the only one who cant play Jeezy. I have no option of moving the subs around since I have a floorbox. Funny thing is, when I had an Earthqauke amp, it shook everything (steering wheel, seats) with the four 12"s?
04-16-2007 06:05 AM
gurrre Type-R Where does you car peak?

If you but the same box i a big suv i bet it hit lows like crazy.



Sorry of topic :Can somone tell me what the rep is??
Is it good to have much or is 0 the best and how do you get it?
04-16-2007 05:44 AM
momentarylapse7 Tried to PM you on Saturday, Dylan.. inbox = full, FYI.
04-16-2007 05:38 AM
Dylan Dude
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Originally Posted by RapidFire89 View Post
dont be a smartass....i wasnt trying to just non-chalantly talk about my uncle....you may have misinterpreted...i was simply saying i do not understand how you are having the issue with better quality equipment....but no you had to come off acting like a dick....i see why ur rep is -1 now
Hey dude relax. I was just asking because it didn't make sence to me. I guess I read it wrong the first time. I thought you were just talking about some random story. lol
04-15-2007 08:52 PM
pornstar orientation...

facing the box towards the front of the car. facing the box to the back of the car. facing the box towards the sky. etc..

the orientation of the woofer.
04-15-2007 08:34 PM
RapidFire89 dont be a smartass....i wasnt trying to just non-chalantly talk about my uncle....you may have misinterpreted...i was simply saying i do not understand how you are having the issue with better quality equipment....but no you had to come off acting like a dick....i see why ur rep is -1 now
04-15-2007 08:32 PM
Dylan Dude
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Originally Posted by RapidFire89 View Post
im lost at this whole post, u really may want to check ur SSF and then check, double check, and then one final time check ur gains for clipping....

however my uncle had a identical car color being the exception with 2 infinity 12s off of a american bass amp @ 2ohms and it hit lows pretty damn good, had amazing response all the way down to 27 after that it had a very steep roll-off and had nothing but "woofer-wobble"
what? What about your uncle? Really, what did that have to do with this topic?
04-15-2007 08:26 PM
RapidFire89 im lost at this whole post, u really may want to check ur SSF and then check, double check, and then one final time check ur gains for clipping....

however my uncle had a identical car color being the exception with 2 infinity 12s off of a american bass amp @ 2ohms and it hit lows pretty damn good, had amazing response all the way down to 27 after that it had a very steep roll-off and had nothing but "woofer-wobble"
04-15-2007 08:14 PM
Dylan Dude
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Originally Posted by profundus-sanus View Post
hypnotize is probably one of the loudest songs i have in my car. I'm also tuned to 29hz tho, so my response is relatively flat.

I think by orientation he means simply turning the box. trying it in any way possible. Or he could mean driver to port orientation. Such as sub up port back. I think either in your case would be worth a try. But it would obviously take a bit of work to try sub up port back.
Yeah, but then we would have to make a new box, and that's not an option.
04-15-2007 07:16 PM
profundus-sanus hypnotize is probably one of the loudest songs i have in my car. I'm also tuned to 29hz tho, so my response is relatively flat.

I think by orientation he means simply turning the box. trying it in any way possible. Or he could mean driver to port orientation. Such as sub up port back. I think either in your case would be worth a try. But it would obviously take a bit of work to try sub up port back.
04-15-2007 03:51 PM
momentarylapse7
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Originally Posted by Dylan Dude View Post
^ Really, maybe it's not as bad as I think it is. Idk.
Probably not, you may be expecting all notes to be tha same 'loudness'..
Hank (2000LaDe) did tha same score from 35-42hz, if I recall correctly, with his Treo's.
04-15-2007 03:49 PM
Dylan Dude ^ Really? maybe it's not as bad as I think it is. Idk.
04-15-2007 03:47 PM
momentarylapse7
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Originally Posted by Dylan Dude View Post
No, it is tuned to 35 hz. I even used the port lenght formula and it was 35 hz.
And still, when you guys play the song "Hyptnotize", it's like OMG!!! This song is SOOO loud!!! But when we play that, it's like, this song has barely any bass.

I think the car is messing with the tuning alot, and we have to adjust the SSF.
My 3515 is loud on Hypnotize.. but shakes **** more than it's loud.. tha higher note is loud as hell, tha lower note isn't as loud, due to it being a low frequency.
04-15-2007 03:46 PM
Dylan Dude
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Originally Posted by momentarylapse7 View Post
I didn't read tha entire thread, so if these have already been posted, disregard:

1. Trying to play under tuning. (if this is tha case, watch for bottoming out)
2. Low notes are NEVER as loud as higher notes. (which is why people meter on higher frequencies & not low ones.. also why people put up scores such as 140.x on 20-25hz & it's so impressive.)
3. SSF is set high.
4. You're box has incorrect tuning.. & is tuned higher, which goes back to number 1.
No, it is tuned to 35 hz. I even used the port lenght formula and it was 35 hz.
And still, when you guys play the song "Hyptnotize", it's like OMG!!! This song is SOOO loud!!! But when we play that, it's like, this song has barely any bass.

I think the car is messing with the tuning alot, and we have to adjust the SSF.

Pornstar, what are you talking about with the enclosure orientation?
04-15-2007 12:54 PM
momentarylapse7 I didn't read tha entire thread, so if these have already been posted, disregard:

1. Trying to play under tuning. (if this is tha case, watch for bottoming out)
2. Low notes are NEVER as loud as higher notes. (which is why people meter on higher frequencies & not low ones.. also why people put up scores such as 140.x on 20-25hz & it's so impressive.)
3. SSF is set high.
4. You're box has incorrect tuning.. & is tuned higher, which goes back to number 1.
04-15-2007 12:53 PM
pornstar
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Originally Posted by Dylan Dude View Post
nah, a new box is not an option. We'll just mess with the settings and if it doesn't change, then o well.
you can also try changing the orientation of the enclosure.. that can make huge differances.


my very first dbdrag event.. i did a 129.9 with my daily driver trunk box.

then i met another compettior who offered me some help.

the next event i went to, i did a 137.9

the only thing we did was change the orientation of my enclosure.

all equipment stayed the same.

and it was much much better for music as well.
04-15-2007 12:50 PM
pornstar
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Originally Posted by Dylan Dude View Post
So your saying it's probly the car's tuning? That sucks. Oh and we don't have any bass boost on, just the Gain on the amp and the sub output on the HU are turned up.
But i need to know if I change the SSF, will I need to reset the gain?

EDIT: wait, I think that some setting on the HU is set to custom, when it could be set to flat. Should we change that?
i'm saying it COULD be your cars tuning...

if you changed your ssf it would be a good idea to check your gain, and make sure you arent clipping, but it should be fine.

as for your headunit.. i dont know what setting you are reffering to. but i'm guessing the eq, if its set to custom...

change it to whatever sounds good to your ears.
04-15-2007 12:47 PM
Dylan Dude nah, a new box is not an option. We'll just mess with the settings and if it doesn't change, then o well.
04-15-2007 12:44 PM
profundus-sanus
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Originally Posted by Dylan Dude View Post
So your saying it's probly the car's tuning? That sucks. Oh and we don't have any bass boost on, just the Gain on the amp and the sub output on the HU are turned up.
But i need to know if I change the SSF, will I need to reset the gain?

EDIT: wait, I think that some setting on the HU is set to custom, when it could be set to flat. Should we change that?
just don't turn the bass setting or the low eq setting on the headunit anywhere other than zero.

you might need to lower your gain if your sub is moving too far on low notes with the subsonic filter down. If you do that you'll be sacrificing overall loudness for more low-low end.

A lower tuned box is probably the way to go. Or try sub up port back. That might help your low end phasing.
04-15-2007 10:26 AM
Dylan Dude
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Originally Posted by pornstar View Post
in car peak is higher than your enclosure tuning.

just because your enclosure is tuned at 35 doesnt mean thats goign to be your peak.

your peak is probably around 50-55 hz

hitting those REAL lows, below 30hz are going to be tough without a new enclosure tuned lower, and /or you MIGHT get them to play if you turn the subsonic filter off, or all the way down... and dont use a bass boost on your headunit. try toget a flatter response. you are also now seeing the importance of a highquality aftermarket eq
So your saying it's probly the car's tuning? That sucks. Oh and we don't have any bass boost on, just the Gain on the amp and the sub output on the HU are turned up.
But i need to know if I change the SSF, will I need to reset the gain?

EDIT: wait, I think that some setting on the HU is set to custom, when it could be set to flat. Should we change that?
04-15-2007 10:21 AM
pornstar in car peak is higher than your enclosure tuning.

just because your enclosure is tuned at 35 doesnt mean thats goign to be your peak.

your peak is probably around 50-55 hz

hitting those REAL lows, below 30hz are going to be tough without a new enclosure tuned lower, and /or you MIGHT get them to play if you turn the subsonic filter off, or all the way down... and dont use a bass boost on your headunit. try toget a flatter response. you are also now seeing the importance of a highquality aftermarket eq
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