Originally Posted by Team_Havoc_SPL

This Is the actual test date from the driver without the coil leaving the gap at all. This is directly from RD audio.

LMS Testing

Alpha (old series)
20mm of 1 way linear travel
56mm of excursion

New Alpha
34mm 1 way linear travel
68mm of total excursion

These are all within the gap, and will do the previous numbers leaving the gap 20%.

Originally Posted by Team_Havoc_SPL

Tommy i replied to you on aol man. You have to be on Team RD before i can give you Team prices, you have to apply thats why you got retail pricing.

Originally Posted by tommyk90

How about an atomic APSPL?

*poke*

Oh wait, thats right, I can get atomic stuff incredibly cheaper than RD.

Originally Posted by Team_Havoc_SPL

No you can't, you got competitor pricing from atomic because you are a competitor and you never asked me about being a competitor only retail.

Nice to slander someone who tries to help you.

As far as the ratings excursion ratings i gave they are not false at all. They are done with LMS testing and not Kippel and I will post full facts tonight.

I wanna know why I have been attacked about this. I have done nothing but try and help people and anyone who has actually bought from me will back me up im sure.

Originally Posted by Team_Havoc_SPL

No ones shading any truth. Read all the other posts ive made, It says 18mm xmax on the new driver. 35mm one way excursion from resting coil position and 74 mm total excursion.

I'm done defending something that I have on paper, people will draw their own conclusions about a product. As always i challenge anyone to put any driver up in the same price or class range as one of our drivers.

Originally Posted by Team_Havoc_SPL

I did not state that it was 35mm of xmax, just of forward excursion.

Originally Posted by Team_Havoc_SPL

agree Caylor, to respond to nick, that test is correct, and nick is correct about the flange, but the numbers are real. The coil is 20% exposed at 35mm of excrusion. It is still more than 80% in the gap, the new coil is 10mm longer than the orignal wind. I want people to test these drivers and I stand behind what I say as always. Our Spyders won't stretch at full xmax and sag as alot of other peoples do, that comment was not directed as a bash to any other company on the market. With the limitations of the 12 spoke basket, we are currently developing and testing new baskets that will allow our linear travel to increase even more.

Originally Posted by Team_Havoc_SPL

we just got thermal testing done on the new Alphas, and the results were outstanding, the glue did not begin to fail until 585 degrees, and the hot forged steel backplate helped with flux dramatically. The new test was slightly different from the last one we ran, we ended up with 74mm total excursion and 35mm 1 way with the 20mm top plate. I wanna get some unbiased testing done on these as well, if your interested contact me and i will see what i can do.

Originally Posted by Team_Havoc_SPL

, our SPL testing in the Integra got us a 147.2 in about 2 cubes with a flared slot port sealed up at the dash. Good to see the testing finally got done, and I hope to get a new alpha to you as soon as possible.

They have a 50 ounce larger magnet structure, 10mm longer coil wind, as well as a new rounded backplate that added to mechanical strength. We are getting 38mm 1 way linear travel and 72mm total excursion with a 20mm top plate.