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11-02-2011 05:22 AM

Brian10962001

Re: crunch gpv12

They ran a huge main sewer line through my town a few years back, tore all the roads up and everything. There were pieces of pipe like that laying all over the place! I still have some scrap in my back yard (where they left it), but most of the flange pieces disappeared pretty quick.

11-01-2011 03:57 PM

smcfab

Re: crunch gpv12

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Originally Posted by 666WMD

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THAT is the port I needed!!! Where does one find it?

11-01-2011 03:56 PM

sri3850341

Re: crunch gpv12

smh, 3 PAGES????

11-01-2011 03:27 PM

Bass707

Re: crunch gpv12

gpv are good subs

10-31-2011 04:39 PM

cxa0897

Re: crunch gpv12

dark does have an epic sig. i watched it for like 5 minutes the other day. between burk and dark every thread is entertaining

10-31-2011 04:29 PM

armykyle1

Re: crunch gpv12

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Originally Posted by darkmage1991

indeed a pair of cvr's are 160 from vmi. but as stated this wont end, everyone has there prefered brand on everything. one may like a brand others wont. thats the joy of being human and having your own opinions

like as for me if i was to choose any electronic brand it would be sony(other than audio) i just love sony's attention to detail and quality of all there electronics. and there cs has always treated me with top notch respect. so i do believe we can lay this thread to rest right?

Sony's CS is top notch for sure

10-31-2011 04:25 PM

Burkem_10

Re: crunch gpv12

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Originally Posted by darkmage1991

Epic Sig

10-31-2011 02:19 PM

Darkmage1991

Re: crunch gpv12

10-31-2011 01:55 PM

Bass911

Re: crunch gpv12

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Originally Posted by Burkem_10

He has a $175 budget. One CVR 12 can be had for about $130. For that price you could get 2 GVPs or Hifonics Subs. The GVPs (not sure about the hifonics) would be able to take more power and obviously two 12s have twice the surface area of one 12.

GVPs or Hifonics are the way to go in this scenario. Done.

Wrong, 2 cvr can be had for $160. Fixed!

10-31-2011 01:48 PM

cxa0897

Re: crunch gpv12

you really cant get much cheaper than hifonics and not have it blow up in a week...but really, this is a thread thats never going to end...really, congress has a better chance of resolving issues than we do with agreeing on something in here.

10-31-2011 01:06 PM

SINTORMAN

Re: crunch gpv12

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Originally Posted by lanman31337

I'll just say they're both crap. Plenty of other budget subs that'll do what the cvr does at a much cheaper cost, same with the hifonics. /thread

Like what ?? Hifonics is the great budget brand LOL.

10-31-2011 11:59 AM

Burkem_10

Re: crunch gpv12

10-31-2011 11:52 AM

lanman31337

Re: crunch gpv12

Word, or some Lanzar Max Pro, or (insert woofer name here)

10-31-2011 11:46 AM

cxa0897

Re: crunch gpv12

Just buy alpine type e's and be done with it.

10-31-2011 11:38 AM

lanman31337

Re: crunch gpv12

I'll just say they're both crap. Plenty of other budget subs that'll do what the cvr does at a much cheaper cost, same with the hifonics. /thread

10-31-2011 11:32 AM

Bass911

Re: crunch gpv12

I'm not downing Hifonics. I just had a problem with the OP calling cvr's crappy. I think the hfi/hfx is a great budget sub.

10-31-2011 11:13 AM

$ERIOU$OUNDZ

Re: crunch gpv12

I dont mind how anyone would phrase it... BUT when a 30 dollar sub is able to handle almost double its rms when used responsibly THAT says alot about that sub. I can honestly say that there have been a significant amount of quality issues with Maxxsonics in the past. And I understand alot of people __feel__ (opinion) that Kicker has better quality than Maxxsonics. I cant really argue that (an opinion) BUT I can say that I have also heard a few horror stories of smelly coils, ripped L7 surrounds, & poor sound quality from some kicker products. And if I had to choose between CVRs & GPVs I would take the GPVs (dont flame me, its just my opinion). And if I had to choose between Kicker Comps & HFIs/HFXs I still think that I would take the HFIs/HFXs (once again its simply my opinion). I have seen what the Hfi subs can do...

10-31-2011 10:43 AM

Brian10962001

Re: crunch gpv12

Having owned almost every american built subwoofer Kicker made (with both Kicker, or Credence logo on it), a pair of 05/06 era CVRs (the one with the grey ribbed cone), four Phoenix gold RSDs, countless other old school and transition subs (MTX, Soundstream, Volcano, Lanzar, Hollywood, Rockford, Bostwick), plenty of garbage subs (Audiobahn, Sagatoga, Pyle, Pyramid), and a 6 HFi's, I have a pretty good knowledge of the products being compared here.

The old school Kickers, still being manufactured under Credence Speakers in KY are great subs. The build quality is top notch, frames are thick and attractive, and they get as loud as anyone would reasonably want. The issue here is you pay US based prices. I still have multiple Bostwick HD Pro 10s that are awesome subs (Comp metal baskets, solo baric motors, traditional surrounds and cones, a TON of performance with plain looks, I run these in my truck to this day).

The CVR's I had were tanks. I had one of them in a big folded vent enclosure running 4 ohm bridged on a Punch 800 tuned high with no subsonic filter. It was crushingly loud for what it was and it never seemed worse for wear. I used to run that sub so long and hard that the amp would thermal itself off, I would let it cool and do it all again.

The Phoenix Gold RSD's were the single best subwoofer deal I've ever found. I paid 40 a woofer. Build quality was exactly on par with the old school Kickers minus some of the aesthetics (stitched surround). They got good and loud and dropped very low in the installs I used them in. Sadly I sold all of these so I never got to enjoy them myself, but I got to listen to them at length.

The Hifonics HFi's are the very close second best deal in subs i've ever found. They feel like a toy, the basket metal is thin, the motor is light and has a silly plastic cover, the rubber surround is over sized for looks more than function I believe. They sound amazingly good for the cheap feel of them. These are not basement subs. They're built to be affordable and they work. Sic makes his money selling Hifonics, but he's not lying when he says they'll take 600rms each if you're responsible. I've been running mine 1 ohm on a BRZ 1200 for a while now and they still surprise me. I own 2 Maxxsonics products now, I'm a careful shopper and so far I feel I've been given good honest advice and got a the best value out there at the time.

10-31-2011 09:50 AM

SINTORMAN

Re: crunch gpv12

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Originally Posted by Bass911

You should have been in the movie Dumb and Dumber because everything you've said is wrong. I don't listen to shops. I pretty much cannot stand shops. I have done over 100 installs in car audio and a few in home audio, so tell me again why I need to listen to a shop? The new P2 is 400 watts, good xmax, and has a pretty big voice coil. Do some research before you run your mouth!

SMH ... you aren't worth argueing with.

10-31-2011 09:40 AM

Bass911

Re: crunch gpv12

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Originally Posted by SINTORMAN

That is wrong and pure speculation... Please take that elsewhere. The RF P2 is 250 wrms SMH.

It sounds like you need to stop listening to your local shops.

10-30-2011 10:50 PM

SINTORMAN

Re: crunch gpv12

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Originally Posted by Bass911

You don't have to buy a p2, but the guy that has them will always sound better than you. The new p2 is no joke. If you put 4 hfx against 4 p2, you'll lose every time. Your wallet will win, but no one cares. If they did JL Audio would be out of business. That p2 will handle more abuse, and you'll be smelling hfx coil trying to keep up.

That is wrong and pure speculation... Please take that elsewhere. The RF P2 is 250 wrms SMH.

It sounds like you need to stop listening to your local shops.

10-30-2011 04:39 PM

Sicaudio

Re: crunch gpv12

I was referring to the HFi not the HFX just used to typing the new model... the hfi is rated at 300 and will easily take 600 done right.. several on here have trusted me and are doing it...

CVR is a GOOD sub.. but way overpriced just like the P2 ... may wanna tear that plastic magnet cover off and actually tear 1 down and do a real comparison... youtube prolly has several already...

hands down from real world testing and experience as a dealer for both brands you get way more bang for buck with the zxi gpv and hfi sub than any of the cvr made in the last decade...

even cost aside... treated correctly both should last many years... but who doesnt abuse stuff?...

I have a setup using a single CVR... but it wont hold a candle to my Crunch GPV...I have pics as proof that I am using the CVR if you wish... on 400 watts tuned at 25hz I can ruin it in a second if I am not careful but on 900 watts I can abuse a GPV at 25Hz all day everyday...

like I said.. it is all Misconception and perception...

Stillwater used to make some of the best products around... but that was years ago in a galaxy far, far away...

I have been with Kicker for 25 yrs.. they gave me my 1st chance as a dealer...if they dropped their prices by 25% at LEAST... they would be a better buy for mainstream..

til then I would personally use alot of off brands long b4 I used them again...

10-30-2011 12:49 PM

tony30cl

Re: crunch gpv12

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Originally Posted by profundus-sanus

sorry but a hfx WON'T hold a candle to a cvr.

gpv's are good subs. very efficient.

kickers quality > maxxsonics quality.

thats the extra you're paying for.

hfx's are the cheapest crappiest feeling subs i've ever seen. you can easily bend the basket with your hand. derrick and robbie wrecked one trying to mount it in the sentra. Imo their not worth more than 15-20$ shipped.

if you're on a budget, the gpv's are a solid choice. just remember what you paid and don't push them too hard.

musta went down from the hfi cause those took a beating from me goin in and out of boxes.

10-30-2011 08:10 AM

Darkmage1991

Re: crunch gpv12

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Originally Posted by profundus-sanus

10-30-2011 04:49 AM

profundus-sanus

Re: crunch gpv12

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