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06-19-2013 11:12 AM

WreckedX

Re: Back in the game ~Build Thread~

I am not dead......I am just making two car payments for a few months......so I am just reaaaaaaaaaaaaal broke right now. BUt the escape gets paid off shortly, so hopefully I can move forward soon.

04-17-2013 08:54 PM

KingPen

Re: Back in the game ~Build Thread~

Quote:

Originally Posted by WreckedX

BTW, thanks for this info King, I see they have them in 3/8 hole size as well. I know where I will be getting my lugs from now.

Now I just gotta get all my wife's crap out of my new ride...lol

Not a problem sir. All the ones I have gotten have been great.

04-17-2013 07:47 PM

WreckedX

Re: Back in the game ~Build Thread~

Quote:

Originally Posted by KingPen

here's who I get my lugs from and I really like them

20 2 0 Gauge AWG x 5 16 in Tinned Copper Lug Battery Cable Connector Terminal | eBay

10 2 0 Gauge AWG x 5 16 in Tinned Copper Lug Battery Cable Connector Terminal | eBay

BTW, thanks for this info King, I see they have them in 3/8 hole size as well. I know where I will be getting my lugs from now.

Now I just gotta get all my wife's crap out of my new ride...lol

04-17-2013 02:27 PM

WreckedX

Re: Back in the game ~Build Thread~

So.......BIG CHANGE

I added the largest thing yet to the build......
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an entirely different vehicle!!

My wife has been asking for a van for a while now, so I went out and got her a Chrysler T&C for her birthday.
So I'm putting the Explorer out to pasture, and will be taking her 2003 Escape (A few less miles than mine, but much better overall condition)

I am going to have to rethink my enclosure a bit, as my big horn wont fit in the rear cargo area (well unless I put it with the mouth of the horn pointing up).

My subs are designed for use in a very low volume sealed enclosure, and the horn design I chose took that into account......maybe a 4th order will do the trick, maybe a different horn design, maybe a TL? Not sure yet.......

Anyhoo, here she is!

04-10-2013 03:53 PM

KingPen

Re: Back in the game ~Build Thread~

04-10-2013 03:24 PM

WreckedX

Re: Back in the game ~Build Thread~

Truck is running well (minus a bit of surging from clogged cat's), and oil has stopped leaking, I think we are in the clear..... now on to more enjoyable things.

I have acquired a PPI Pro-MOS 450 that I am going to put to work driving my subs, ill am happy to be bringing this old school monster back out of the pasture, and putting it back to work doing what it does best..... seems to be a theme in this build.....

So here is where we stand for gear so far:
Head Unit: Alpine CDA-7863
Front End Amp: Coustic AMP-268 (wish I could find the manual)
Sub Amp: Precision Power Pro-MOS 450
Subs: 2x Pioneer TS-w2502d4
Components: Bravox CS57CF (I may be ordering a second pair of these)

Other items on hand:
Solid brass marine grade battery terminals
25' of FA 2/0 power cable
Roll of rg-56 for making my interconnects (I also have some FA RCA's I may end up using instead)
Giant roll of rubber hardwood floor underlayment to use as experimental sound deadening

Shopping list:
2/0 Lugs
8 AWG ring terminals
2 four terminal bus bars (for power and ground)
ANL fuse holder and 300 amp fuses
2 maxi fuse holders and 35 amp fuses (for the PPI amp)
machine screws, washers, and nuts to make binding posts on enclosure
2-3 sheets 3/4 MDF and roll of charcoal carpet

I am trying to decide how to do my interconnects.
The head unit has 2 pre-amp outs one "Front" and one that switchable between "Rear" and "Sub" (they are 5v according to the owners manual), it has a built in crossover for the pre-amp outs (can be disabled)
The Coustic amp has a really nice built in crossover, with an adjustable level line out (If you set your front channels to high pass, than the line out is low pass)
The PPI of course has no crossover.

Should I,
A. Feed the front channel pre to the Coustic amp (It has a parallel switch that runs all 4 channels of a single input) then set the other out to "Sub" and y split it to the 4 channels on the PPI. In this instance I would set the Coustic crossover into fill range, and just use the built in processor in the head unit.
B. Feed front and rear to the Coustic (turning off the head units internal crossover), then feed the PPI with a y off of the low pass line out on the Coustic amp.
C. Buy a nice old school crossover to run it all

Option a gives me more control over the crossover from the drivers seat, option b makes use of that famous Coustic crossover, and option C costs me more money...lol...

Anyways, what do you guys think?

03-26-2013 06:28 AM

Robsmokey

Re: Back in the game ~Build Thread~

How it tends to be sadly :/ all vehicles do is burn a bigger hole inurr pocket.

esspecially when you havea car audio addiction

03-13-2013 06:38 AM

WreckedX

Re: Back in the game ~Build Thread~

The continuing drama of the Explorer.....
So did a fuel pressure test, no leak down, no clue where the gas came from. I gave it a fresh fill of Valvoline Max Life and a new filter. Also went through the nightmare of changing the plugs (on this truck, changing plugs requires jacking it up, removing the passenger wheel and inner fender, removing part of the emissions crap, removing the transmission dipstick tube, then you still need swivels and extensions to get to the plugs) and wires. One of the plug wires had a hole burnt through it, causing it to arc off the side of the block (a ticking previously attributed to valve train noise)
Now the cats are clogged and causing the truck to bog down and surge, also since doing the tune up, it runs so much quieter, new noises have surfaced.
Now I can hear...the dreaded explorer timing chain rattle......NOOOOOOOOOOO
SO im going to baby it until I can pull the motor and redo all the timing chain guides and tensioners.

Every time I get some money set aside to work on my build, it decides to have mechanical issues......

03-09-2013 05:36 AM

WreckedX

Re: Back in the game ~Build Thread~

Well crap....... This sucks

Riding home from work yesterday, I start seeing smoke... So I pull in my driveway, and slide underneath.... It's suddenly leaking oil out of the rear main seal area (very new oil leak, the oil was fresh)

So I pull the dip stick.... And am hit square in the face with the smell of gasoline..."well that explains the sudden oil leak"

So today I am going to change the oil, change the plugs, and do a fuel pressure test....

Pretty sure I'm dealing with a stuck injector here, this should be fun. Well at least my engine is sludge free now, gasoline eats that right up... Hopefully some fresh Valvoline High Milage will keep the rear main seal leak in check.

03-05-2013 01:21 PM

WreckedX

Re: Back in the game ~Build Thread~

These subs are actually sort of strange in the fact that they don't have any spiders, they have 2 cones (One inverted under the other) something Pioneer call "Air Suspension".
Got a message from my wife saying there was a package for me, so my Bravox components are here (so excited).
I will make an unboxing/comparison video this evening and post it, since there is so little info about these out there.

Also.....could I get a Mod to move this thread to the Builds subforum where it belongs? Thanks....

02-26-2013 04:17 PM

07blackg5

Re: Back in the game ~Build Thread~

those at least look beefy. seem like a great deal for 100 bucks

02-26-2013 03:01 PM

WreckedX

Re: Back in the game ~Build Thread~

Quote:

Originally Posted by OVER 160db MISSION

Those pioneers arent pushing a grand a peice in RMS...
most likely why pioneer suggests underpowering them. ive heard a pair of 12s sounded like kicker cvrs.

I would guess those subs around 600 or so RMS. I mean really mainstream 100 dollar 1000 RMS sub? I dont think so. But for their price they are still AWESOME dont get me wrong.

Crescendo amp... Stays cool.

They are a little beefier than the average Pioneer. They are rated at 800w rms each, I know I'm planning on overpowering them a bit, but I think they can handle it just fine. They were not always 100$, I'm fairly positive they are closing them out.

Banana for scale (because I'm an Imgurian)

02-26-2013 02:41 PM

OVER 160db MISSION

Re: Back in the game ~Build Thread~

02-26-2013 10:23 AM

Spl150db

Re: Back in the game ~Build Thread~

Im not going for anything complicated. Hell if i can design a box to house 2 DD beasts back in 200 with 5k watts to each coil this shouldnt be too far from that

02-26-2013 10:17 AM

KingPen

Re: Back in the game ~Build Thread~

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spl150db

i should be be fine, i am a quick learner

haha, you say that now. No honestly the basic are easy to pick up but you will get frustrated trying to make the more advanced things.

02-26-2013 08:20 AM

Spl150db

Re: Back in the game ~Build Thread~

Quote:

Originally Posted by WreckedX

Google Sketch Up! Its free, but will have a bit of a learning curve if you have never used any sort of CAD or 3d drawing software.

i should be be fine, i am a quick learner

02-26-2013 08:09 AM

WreckedX

Re: Back in the game ~Build Thread~

Oh and I forgot to mention, while cleaning out the garage, I found some foil backed high density foam (its for sound deadening/cushioning underlayment for laminate floors) left over from my flooring project last year. There is a fairly good amount, going to attempt to use it as s sound deadener for behind interior panels, as well as combining it with some spray adhesive to seal off my door skins behind my door panels.
Ill use CLD squares on exterior panels where I need to, but I am not a member of the "Blanket everything with CLD club" Diminishing returns are not just a rule , they are a law!! LOL

02-26-2013 08:00 AM

WreckedX

Re: Back in the game ~Build Thread~

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spl150db

nice drawing, what program did you use to do the box layout?

Google Sketch Up! Its free, but will have a bit of a learning curve if you have never used any sort of CAD or 3d drawing software.

02-26-2013 07:46 AM

Spl150db

Re: Back in the game ~Build Thread~

nice drawing, what program did you use to do the box layout?

02-15-2013 01:03 PM

KingPen

Re: Back in the game ~Build Thread~

Haha, yes you will have that problem. I had two solo x's on 2 2500.1's so I had fun with that every day. Broke my damn wiper too

. And the latch will break on you too.

02-15-2013 01:02 PM

sri3850341

Re: Back in the game ~Build Thread~

The "Wicked One" has been around for some time... It is a good design...

02-15-2013 12:57 PM

WreckedX

Re: Back in the game ~Build Thread~

For those of you interested in the enclosure design, I love designing enclosures, and would love to claim this one; but alas....tis not my baby...

Steve Deckart from Decware/ high fidelity engineering.

The response on this thing is flat like a horn (each frequency resonates from a different part of the horn, so its like a port that self tunes), but it can still get LOW like a 4th order.....its a beautiful blend of designs.....
Here is a link to the info page
DECWARE's Wicked-One Horn Subwoofer

He actually gives this plan away for free, just read through and click the PLANS link under the drawings.

It cant really be modeled effectively, but when figuring out what subs to use, you can model for a 4th order and should be fine.

That was a sharp Explorer kingpen, 1996? Black is always a good color!

As far as my Explorer go's, this is my second two door Explorer. I have a soft spot for all explorers, but especially the two door sports, they feel stocky and capable but still nimble and light.
My only real concern with this build, on this truck,is the back glass. On the explorer (as kingpen will be well familiar with), the back glass is frame-less, and just closes on a seal. WIth the mouth of my horn firing to the back, im concerned its going to rattle the hell out of that glass. I may have to find a way to affix it more permanently at some point (I think some of the early explorers lacked a flip up glass, may have to look at them for inspiration)

02-15-2013 12:43 PM

KingPen

Re: Back in the game ~Build Thread~

Haha, yea he had me missing my explorer too

02-15-2013 12:24 PM

Dr.BeatGood

Re: Back in the game ~Build Thread~

Man, that explorer makes me want a blazer again so bad. I miss my blazer a lot! lol

02-15-2013 06:51 AM

97_eldo

Re: Back in the game ~Build Thread~

sounds like ya gots lots to do

that box looks decent, what does it sound like response wise ?
interesting design.

it's always cool to see the old stuff put back into service....shows the longevity of the better built equipment. i doubt alot of stuff built today isn't going to survive as many years.

good luck with the build, hope to see more.

take care and have fun

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