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03-11-2014 04:06 AM
666WMD
Re: How to never blow a sub or amp again?

Quote:
Originally Posted by BenzSPL View Post
I heard good speaker wires really make a difference in sound quality, is that true?
As Shizzon said, it's psychoacoustics. There's a guy offering $1million to anyone who can tell the difference between $300/ft speaker cable and coat hanger wire in a blind test.
02-25-2014 03:35 PM
BigBird
Re: How to never blow a sub or amp again?

Power wire yes makes a huge difference speaker wire witch was that question no it dose not
02-25-2014 10:27 AM
little-kid-wit-bass
Re: How to never blow a sub or amp again?

I used 10 ga wire for my sundown amp for like 1 day then got 4ga. It makes a difference. lol
02-24-2014 09:40 AM
BigBird
Re: How to never blow a sub or amp again?

The only way different wire will make a notable difference is if your running wire to small for the current load and then change to appropriate size and even then there's a chance you won't notice it
02-24-2014 02:39 AM
shizzzon
Re: How to never blow a sub or amp again?

It's called psychoacoustics and no.
02-23-2014 11:09 PM
BenzSPL
Re: How to never blow a sub or amp again?

Alright guys, I ripped out all of my old wiring and finally installed the Knu kit.

Sound wise nothing has changed, my system still sounds the same. Hopefully it holds up and I don't have anymore technical issues.

I installed all of the wires except for the speaker wires and RCA's. I heard good speaker wires really make a difference in sound quality, is that true?
02-23-2014 03:10 PM
shizzzon
Re: How to never blow a sub or amp again?

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Originally Posted by BenzSPL View Post
Quick question,

How do you install fuse holders like this?
StreetWires ZN1-ILAGU 4 AWG In Line ZN1 Series AGU Fuse Holder

How do you put the fuse back in if you take it out after installing????????

Do you pull it out, add the wire to the end of it and put it back in?
You slide the whole system out of the insulation until you can get to the fuse. Replace fuse, then slide the whole system back in.

Those blocks are too much trouble.

IF you can find some insulated MIDI Fuse holders, i'd get those instead as they are manufactured as low as 30A now.
02-23-2014 01:53 PM
southerntrendkill
Re: How to never blow a sub or amp again?

Only if the rear battery itself is properly grounded.
02-23-2014 01:37 PM
BenzSPL
Re: How to never blow a sub or amp again?

Quick question,

How do you install fuse holders like this?
StreetWires ZN1-ILAGU 4 AWG In Line ZN1 Series AGU Fuse Holder

How do you put the fuse back in if you take it out after installing????????

Do you pull it out, add the wire to the end of it and put it back in?
02-23-2014 12:54 PM
shizzzon
Re: How to never blow a sub or amp again?

The source of power and ground is battery so if it's close, it would be wise to do so.

Also, cables do not explode. What you had was a meltdown due to resistance.

IF it were truly 8awg wire, i'm curious what fuse was put on that line because that would tell me if the cable or the installation caused the problem.
02-23-2014 12:47 PM
arcwcb
Re: How to never blow a sub or amp again?

Yes you can, since I put the new XS batt in my trunk, all my amp grounds go straight to it.
02-23-2014 12:38 PM
BenzSPL
Re: How to never blow a sub or amp again?

Quote:
Originally Posted by sri3850341 View Post
Most of the time, melted conductors or blown fuses are indication of a few things.
Bad install (loose connections), not using proper sized wire for the current draw, bad grounds.. If you had a connection at a junction block and it welded itself to the junction block then more than likely you had it loose... From my experience if you had used the wrong size cable it would short directly at the source of power..Stuff goes "POOF" when you drop below rail voltage and your still trying to produce a signal, the more you pull the more heat you produce, heat is our enemy.. Maybe you could list your current electrical platform and maybe we could find any issues you might be overlooking.. Remember, your electrical is the foundation your system is built on!! You wouldn't build a 2 story house on a 4" slab, would ya?

Another little tid bit of info is, your amps and speakers pull power from the power source, the power source doesn't give it, hence the term "draw", your equipment will pull power till the end, and in doing so works harder the further the power source goes down..

GUESS WHO GUYS???? AND NO CHEATING

Thanks for the advice!

I believe my power wire looks to be 8g, it is too small and I should've known better when the shop installed it because it was the only kit they had and they were open late. Since my amp is weak I thought the wires were big enough to handle it, guess I was wrong.

After my original ground wire exploded, I bought a cheap 4g amp kit and only replaced the ground wire which until this day has not melted or exploded.

Stock battery is my electrical, no upgrades or anything like that.

My system is strictly for a daily driver only and I do not want a competition setup.

Since my battery is located in the trunk, can I ground my amp directly to the negative post on the battery instead of the chassis?
02-23-2014 11:54 AM
BigBird
Re: How to never blow a sub or amp again?

Thats good then !
02-23-2014 11:13 AM
49konvict
Re: How to never blow a sub or amp again?

A million times better. And he uses some decent equip now
02-23-2014 11:02 AM
BigBird
Re: How to never blow a sub or amp again?

Have his installs got any better though ?
02-23-2014 10:55 AM
49konvict
Re: How to never blow a sub or amp again?

He's banned from here but is on caco. Has done walls and has really matured. Still a dumbass but not as bad as he used to be.
02-23-2014 09:20 AM
BigBird
Re: How to never blow a sub or amp again?

Dose he still get on ?
02-23-2014 09:16 AM
49konvict
Re: How to never blow a sub or amp again?

Yeah looks like tonys blacura. Tony has actually grown up some.
02-23-2014 08:16 AM
BigBird
Re: How to never blow a sub or amp again?

Is that tony30 ?
02-23-2014 05:04 AM
sri3850341
Re: How to never blow a sub or amp again?

Quote:
Originally Posted by BenzSPL View Post
don't ever use cheap wires even if it's a rush job... Be patient and order new wires.
Most of the time, melted conductors or blown fuses are indication of a few things.
Bad install (loose connections), not using proper sized wire for the current draw, bad grounds.. If you had a connection at a junction block and it welded itself to the junction block then more than likely you had it loose... From my experience if you had used the wrong size cable it would short directly at the source of power..Stuff goes "POOF" when you drop below rail voltage and your still trying to produce a signal, the more you pull the more heat you produce, heat is our enemy.. Maybe you could list your current electrical platform and maybe we could find any issues you might be overlooking.. Remember, your electrical is the foundation your system is built on!! You wouldn't build a 2 story house on a 4" slab, would ya?

Another little tid bit of info is, your amps and speakers pull power from the power source, the power source doesn't give it, hence the term "draw", your equipment will pull power till the end, and in doing so works harder the further the power source goes down..

GUESS WHO GUYS???? AND NO CHEATING

02-23-2014 02:31 AM
BenzSPL
Re: How to never blow a sub or amp again?

Quote:
Originally Posted by BenzSPL View Post
Also the current amp in my car (Audiophonics) completely shut off randomly and is not turning back on..... no power or protect light and no burning smell.

Could this issue be a blow power wire fuse, or a blown fuse on the amp itself?
Found the issue, after opening up the battery I noticed my power wire had exploded or melted? inside of the fuse block. Luckily nothing caught on fire.

I had a similar issue like this in the past where the tip of my ground wire exploded/melted in the place it was bolted onto the chassis.

Moral of the story, don't ever use cheap wires even if it's a rush job... Be patient and order new wires.
02-22-2014 08:11 PM
smfonic1
Re: How to never blow a sub or amp again?

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Originally Posted by matt.u View Post
as long as he is willing to learn we can help we all have to start somewhere.
Yep, your right.
02-22-2014 01:57 PM
matt.u
Re: How to never blow a sub or amp again?

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This deserves a huge FACEPALM!
as long as he is willing to learn we can help we all have to start somewhere.
02-22-2014 05:01 AM
arcwcb
Re: How to never blow a sub or amp again?

^I agree
02-21-2014 09:34 PM
smfonic1
Re: How to never blow a sub or amp again?

This deserves a huge FACEPALM!
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