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Default How to never blow a sub or amp again?

Like the title states.

I have not had a stable system until this day whether it was the amp frying or the subs blowing and even blown fuses.

I have always kept the bass boost down.

Since I got the new amp and wires I don't want to destroy it after one week.

Could the issue be the cheap amp kit I had in the past?

Will all these problems go away once I install the new KnuKonceptz kit?
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Also the current amp in my Car (Audiophonics) completely shut off randomly and is not turning back on..... no Power or protect light and no burning smell.

Could this issue be a blow power Wire fuse, or a blown fuse on the amp itself?
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How to never blow your equipment?
1) buy quality equipment
2) quality installation including proper wire size, properly sized fuses, solid electrical, and a properly designed enclosure
3) set the amp up correctly
4) listen to your new system

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As long as you use good gear, a proper install and common sense you shouldn't have any issues. The only item I've ever burned up was from abusing it day in and day out
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Second what arc and cad said .... I've had the system in my truck for 3 years and never had a problem until recently the rca input on my sub amp went out and I play it loud all the time ..... most of the installs I do are redoing someone else's install where they used cheap gear I've even got to the point where if someone comes to me and says they want the cheapest amp and subs I can get I politely tell them I don't do that kind of install and send them to a local stereo shop or flea market
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Learn to set yoir gains properly and have the electrical to support your power are the two big things. I've ran 150 rms subs on 1k and 1k subs on 150. If you know what to listen for and when to turn it down you'll be fine. I've only had one amp die on my and it was because it was old and the board just gave from years of use and one sub die because I was pushing it hard below tuning and separated the former at the cone. Nothing a little goop couldn't fix.
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Also the current amp in my car (Audiophonics) completely shut off randomly and is not turning back on..... no power or protect light and no burning smell.

Could this issue be a blow power wire fuse, or a blown fuse on the amp itself?
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Get your DMM and check for voltage. This is Install 101 stuff, we can't tell you which fuse blew. Check for voltage before and after the main fuse, check for voltage at the end of the power wire run, check continuity across the amp fuse. If that is all good, check resistance from the end of the ground wire to chassis. If it's high, check where the ground wire is connected to ensure it isn't loose. If that all checks out, check for voltage on the remote wire. Once you've done all that, come back and we can maybe help figure out the issue.
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even the cheapest gear can last awhile with proper care... i had a boss amp last about 4 years when i sold it it was still working. so i wouldnt say that cheap gear will always blow. but proper electrical always helps.
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Also the current amp in my car (Audiophonics) completely shut off randomly and is not turning back on..... no power or protect light and no burning smell.

Could this issue be a blow power wire fuse, or a blown fuse on the amp itself?
Found the issue, after opening up the battery I noticed my power wire had exploded or melted? inside of the fuse block. Luckily nothing caught on fire.

I had a similar issue like this in the past where the tip of my ground wire exploded/melted in the place it was bolted onto the chassis.

Moral of the story, don't ever use cheap wires even if it's a rush job... Be patient and order new wires.
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don't ever use cheap wires even if it's a rush job... Be patient and order new wires.
Most of the time, melted conductors or blown fuses are indication of a few things.
Bad install (loose connections), not using proper sized wire for the current draw, bad grounds.. If you had a connection at a junction block and it welded itself to the junction block then more than likely you had it loose... From my experience if you had used the wrong size cable it would short directly at the source of power..Stuff goes "POOF" when you drop below rail voltage and your still trying to produce a signal, the more you pull the more heat you produce, heat is our enemy.. Maybe you could list your current electrical platform and maybe we could find any issues you might be overlooking.. Remember, your electrical is the foundation your system is built on!! You wouldn't build a 2 story house on a 4" slab, would ya?

Another little tid bit of info is, your amps and speakers pull power from the power source, the power source doesn't give it, hence the term "draw", your equipment will pull power till the end, and in doing so works harder the further the power source goes down..

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He's banned from here but is on caco. Has done walls and has really matured. Still a dumbass but not as bad as he used to be.
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Have his installs got any better though ?
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A million times better. And he uses some decent equip now
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Thats good then !
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Most of the time, melted conductors or blown fuses are indication of a few things.
Bad install (loose connections), not using proper sized wire for the current draw, bad grounds.. If you had a connection at a junction block and it welded itself to the junction block then more than likely you had it loose... From my experience if you had used the wrong size cable it would short directly at the source of power..Stuff goes "POOF" when you drop below rail voltage and your still trying to produce a signal, the more you pull the more heat you produce, heat is our enemy.. Maybe you could list your current electrical platform and maybe we could find any issues you might be overlooking.. Remember, your electrical is the foundation your system is built on!! You wouldn't build a 2 story house on a 4" slab, would ya?

Another little tid bit of info is, your amps and speakers pull power from the power source, the power source doesn't give it, hence the term "draw", your equipment will pull power till the end, and in doing so works harder the further the power source goes down..

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Thanks for the advice!

I believe my power wire looks to be 8g, it is too small and I should've known better when the shop installed it because it was the only kit they had and they were open late. Since my amp is weak I thought the wires were big enough to handle it, guess I was wrong.

After my original ground wire exploded, I bought a cheap 4g amp kit and only replaced the ground wire which until this day has not melted or exploded.

Stock battery is my electrical, no upgrades or anything like that.

My system is strictly for a daily driver only and I do not want a competition setup.

Since my battery is located in the trunk, can I ground my amp directly to the negative post on the battery instead of the chassis?
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