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Hey guys I guess I just have a few questions in regards to the title. I just picked up a pair of FT1'S and upon receiving them I decided that glassing them to the a pillars may may be a better option than mounting them in the doors. However, I don't know what benefits I could expect to see from doing so. I'm assuming you get better sound dispersion compared to having them in the door by your knee (like the whole why meter in the kick when you don't have your head down there saying). This is the only benefit I can see at the moment, it would seem though that mounting them in the door would possibly break up or dispell the harshness of them. Another question I have is where is it best to point them? At the nearest headrest, at the opposite head rest or more towards the center of the car/center console area? Any light you guys could shed would be greatly appreciated as I'm assuming some of you have done this before.

In addition I have never glassed anything so I think A pillars would be a good way to get my feet wet with it provided that doing something like this is worth the effort.

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mount them in the a pillar facing each other direct sound from tweets can harm your hearing
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My preference is silk dome, firing towards middle roof (dome light). But my preference is subjective to what you prefer, that being said, get some double sided tape, long Wire and start temp mounting to get what you want.. I have seen installs where each driver is firing directly at the driver on both sides.
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What Shane said. Test them to see where they sound best before you mount them. PA tweets like that will sound very harsh compared to silk dome that you'd be used to hearing.
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Thanks guys after I asked I did some more searching around and did discover that this is a rather vehicle specific subject. Facing directly at me seemed like the worst option but I had to ask. There was a good thread on dimya about aiming tweets. Maybe I'll try them in the doors first and go from there the factory probably did them like that for a reason.
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yeap. i'd definately want to test those first. If you had a accurate on/off axis response graph you might be able to get in the ball park, but i'm guessing crescendo doesn't provide those so get to testing.
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Thanks guys after I asked I did some more searching around and did discover that this is a rather vehicle specific subject. Facing directly at me seemed like the worst option but I had to ask. There was a good thread on dimya about aiming tweets. Maybe I'll try them in the doors first and go from there the factory probably did them like that for a reason.
i wouldn't put much stock in gm's tweeter placement. My money would be on it was likely done more for convenience and less for it working best acoustically for the vehicle.
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Sadly pro that's more than likely true. However, it does seem that most of the builds utilizing ft1's mount them in the doors rather than the A-pillars of course it could be for the same reason convenience.
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Personally I would never consider installing bullet tweeters in any close quarters type of installation, They are just to damn harsh and should not have any place in a mobile audio scenario, but then again sound is subjective and that is just my opinion, plus i'm getting old and enjoy good quality sound
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yes i allways recomend soft dome tweets in close quarters instals and even in large installs just more quantity
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heard bullets once in a friends ride. and told myself never buy them. ya they get loud... but they dont sound good./
bt i do like titanium over silk...for domes...
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