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i thnk they r an lms design iirc not sure havent had it out of the box in over a year lol
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i thnk they r an lms design iirc not sure havent had it out of the box in over a year lol
You are just oozing with bad information.

1. The sw8000 series is not the same as this or the sw9100series
2. They are NOTHING like the LMS series, which uses a completely proprietary coil and came out almost a decade after the Eclipse Ti stuff was built by TC.
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You are just oozing with bad information.

1. The sw8000 series is not the same as this or the sw9100series
2. They are NOTHING like the LMS series, which uses a completely proprietary coil and came out almost a decade after the Eclipse Ti stuff was built by TC.
easy killer lol

he said he thought. didn't say he was sure of it.
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easy killer lol

he said he thought. didn't say he was sure of it.
He said the sw8000 was the same as the sw9100 and the TC-3k, lol! All three subs are very much different from each other in many ways.
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lmt not lms sorry....

like i said it has been over a year since i even looked at it....


from what i found way back when ( during research ) the 8200 IS an LMS made by TC for Eclipse, the 8210 was an LMT and great specs but not near as good....my memory is faded.... but even now a simple google search pulled up gobs of info supporting that...

from what i remember tho now that i think on it is we determined that it was a tc9 ? if that sounds right? i really cant remember ... the last time i even took it out of the enclosure was well over 1 yr ago research was 2007/08 iirc?...i found some motor pics tho that match exactly...

here are some links too:

Eclipse SW8200 - AVS Forum

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quote from ^^^ that link ^^^For sealed use an LMS [COLOR=#009600 ! important][COLOR=#009600 ! important]motor[/COLOR][/COLOR], like TC Sounds LMS-R, Eclipse SW8210/SW8010/SW8200/SW8000 10's & 12's, Sound Splinter [COLOR=#009600 ! important][COLOR=#009600 ! important]RL[/COLOR][/COLOR]-S 12 & 15, etc...

$1k subs - Mobile Electronics Australia - Page 3.5


so someone that knows for sure wanna pipe in here?... i honestly have no clue... I do know it is definately a TC sub....I have seen the 8200 and 8210 side by side and the baskets and motors are nothing alike...the sw8200/9200 smother the 8210...
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I'd say you could easily get $350-375 plus shipping that is if its mint.
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LMS-R just came out in the past couple of years during TC's "return"

TC stopped making subs for Eclipse YEARS before LMS technology had been invented.

It's simple fact.
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tc9 with LMS has been around since at least 2006...i have found a ton of references to that fact with posts dating that far back... part of the links i posted are all from 2007 up...

this is a quote from 1 of the posts...

For sealed use an LMS motor, like Sounds LMS-R, Eclipse SW8210/SW8010/SW8200/SW8000 10's & 12's, Sound Splinter RL-S 12 & 15, etc..

now I did say I THINK it is a TC3.. I was wrong it is a TC9 LMS...the newer model i have is an LMT...w/e the hell lms/lmt even means...
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the eclipse 8200's had tc9 motors and aluminum cones, i just sold a pair of 12's not too long ago
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the eclipse 8200's had tc9 motors and aluminum cones, i just sold a pair of 12's not too long ago

TY Gar been waiting for you too pipe in
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He said the sw8000 was the same as the sw9100 and the TC-3k, lol! All three subs are very much different from each other in many ways.
missed that part, sorry.

i don't know near as much as you guys about all this stuff so i'm staying out of it, lol.
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LMS = Linear motion series aka Audiopulse LMS Ultra

LMT = Linear motion technology, after the Ultra came the smaller subs with the same coil technology

LMS-R = Model of newer TC sub

As I stated before, the LMS coil is VERY specific and was designed AFTER TC/AP stopped making subs for Eclipse/Fujitsu Ten
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Actually, the sw8200 may have an LMS coil. I believe it is the last model that TC made for Eclipse, so the coils might have been around.

Earlier in the thread I thought you were talking about sw8800 which are similar to sw9100 that you were also talking about.
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ahhh good to know

so either way both the subs we have are great subs for reconing lol

1 is an LMS the other is an LMT
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if you want really good sq the only thing you would want to recone a lms/lmt sub with is another lms coil. if the utmost sq isnt what you want out of them the motors are still amazing reconed with regular coils kinda like my want to run a 5400 motor in my jeep but i would never try to run a lms coil in it, cant handle any where near enough Power for my taste.
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