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I've been in contact with a couple of highly reputable Build houses from Korea about building a product line that I can market. Right now I am looking at Zenon as my supplier as they have a great reputation.

1. If I were to put together a group buy, what is the dollar/watt ratio that you'd need to see before you'd consider buying into this.

2. What size amp would you want and would you want 2 channel or 4 channel options as well as monoblocks?
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15 to 20cents a watt is reasonable 25 to 35 cents a watt is sundown pricing 1000 to 1500rms amps .5 ohm stable would be a huge plus remote gain knob proper cooling and great looks.and a warranty to match...2 channel would be a plus for additional mids and highs or a SQ sub amp...4 channels you would need a small one and a big one 60 to 75 x4 is small and 125 to 175 x4 is large and if you could make them all match looks wise that would allso be a plus cuz its anoying when companies change the design of the heatsink and color when they upgrade amp designs people like matching amps
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15 to 20cents a watt is reasonable 25 to 35 cents a watt is sundown pricing 1000 to 1500rms amps .5 ohm stable would be a huge plus remote gain knob proper cooling and great looks.and a warranty to match...2 channel would be a plus for additional mids and highs or a SQ sub amp...4 channels you would need a small one and a big one 60 to 75 x4 is small and 125 to 175 x4 is large and if you could make them all match looks wise that would allso be a plus cuz its anoying when companies change the design of the heatsink and color when they upgrade amp designs people like matching amps
They'd all be 1 ohm stable. Moving down to 1/2 ohm raises costs and shortens the life of the amps (typically) due to the added heat. Not saying they wouldn't be available eventually, but for now I'd probably stick around that 1 ohm stable arena.

I think that the price/watt you mentioned should be attainable on the class D sub amps, class D multi-channel amps will be a bit more.... AB likely a bit more than that even.

What we were thinking is the following items initially in our group buy order:
1500 RMS Mono (D)
2500 RMS Mono (D)
75x4 RMS 4 Channel (D) - 130x4 @ 2 ohm
*OR 90x4 RMS Class AB - 130x4 @ 2 ohm
165x4 RMS 4 Channel (D) - 250x4 @ 2 ohm
*OR 130x4 RMS Class AB - 200x4 @ 2 ohm
70x4 +230 5 Channel (D) - 110x4 + 320 @ 2 ohm

I've attached a pic of what a 3000 watt amp of theirs looks like internally. All would include a wired remote.
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Alright, I have been contemplating doing something like this for quite a while now and have finally found the right manufacturing partner to make this happen....
Trafik Jamz (My Shop) is about to place an opening order for our own series of amplifiers. The initial batch will come unbadged as these are prototypes (the internals will remain the same, the heat sink design may change slightly. Because of this we are willing to offer these at a discount vs what we would normally be charging for them once all the cosmetics have been worked out. The Build house is Zenon in South Korea, so there will be a bit of lag between order date and delivery. The first order date will be June 23, 2014. If there is enough demand we will place a second order around the same time in July.
All prices include shipping in the continental USA.
If you have any questions, let me know.
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its just a little cheaper than sundown but the smallest one is a 5500?...you do know that the biggest sellers are the 1 to 2k amps right?
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I'm with Kickin on this one, you really need something in the 2k range. And I don't really see the point of having so many amps only 1Kwrms apart. 5.5, 7.5, 9.5 and 11.5Kwrms would be sufficient as at those levels of Power you'd barely see an increase in db and wouldn't even hear it going up 1Kwrms in power. A 1.5-2k and a 3-4Kwrms would be better for sales.
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yes a 1500 , 3k , 5k , 7.5k , 10k , 14k so many amps packed into a tight powerband is not going to do so good in sales
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Ask and you shall receive:

Compact Series
700 Watt Mono Block
2500 Watt Mono Block
150x4 Multichannel
70x4 + 230x1 5 Channel

Premium Series Class D
1600 Watt Mono Block
3800 Watt Mono Block
5000 Watt Mono Block

Premium Series Class AB
180x2 2 Channel
200x4 4 Channel
85x4 + 300x1 5 Channel

Extreme Series Class D Mono Block
5500x1
6500x1
7500x1
8500x1
9500x1
10000x1
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If someone really wants a 2k we have one available in the Premium Class D series for $309 as well.
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Nice line so on them prices are they shipped ? Or is that just a preorder price?
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Nice prices on the 150 and 200x4's. I think those will sell well with the SPL guys.
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Nice line so on them prices are they shipped ? Or is that just a preorder price?
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I guess I can't go edit my original post... so here is the official announcement:

After years on contemplation and discussions with several industry specialists, Trafik Jamz has finally decided to release our first amplifier lines!
The Compact Series is exactly as it sounds.... compact! But don't let it's size fool you, they pack a mean punch! Up to 2500 watts at 1 ohm to be exact!
Not enough for you? Then step up to the Premium Class D amplifiers from 1570 to 5000 watts RMS @ 1 ohm!
More of an Audiophile or Purist? Desire the sound of a solid Class AB Amplifier? SO DO WE! Which is why we are proud to announce our Premium Class AB Amplifiers! Available in 2, 4 and 5 channel configurations!
Finally, for the SPL competitor, we didn't forget about you either! The EXTREME series of amps will satisfy your bass cravings (If you have the electrical system to handle it). These beasts range from 5,500 watts RMS all the way up to 11,500 with 14.4 volts input! Have a beefier charging system with 16 or even 18 volts available? PERFECT! They are capable of handling additional voltage for the most hardcore competitors!

Order before June 23 and take $25 off the Compact Series and 5% off all additional series! Prices include shipping in continental USA!

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